Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-05-22

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Details

  • Time: Tuesday, 2012 May 22, 9:00 - 9:45am PT (16:00 - 16:45 UTC)
  • Backchannel:
    • irc.mozilla.org #openwebapps
  • Virtual Location:
  • Physical Locations:
    • Mountain View: 4K - Kung Fu
    • San Francisco: 7N - Noise Pop
  • Audio-only Access:
    • +1-650-903-0800 or +1-650-215-1282, x92, conf#: 98652 (US/INTL)
    • +1-800-707-2533, pin: 369, conf#: 98652 (US toll free)

Agenda

  • significant changes/updates
    • Webapps for Firefox 15 is [AT RISK]
    • jsmith: Google Mobile Web Compatibility - Starting to Get Traction in Partner Communication!
      • If you've got complaints with mobile google apps running on gecko, let us know!
  • questions and concerns
    • myk: a lot of stuff is [AT RISK] ; how do we get it back [ON TRACK] so we can get it [DONE] ?
    • jsmith: What's the current story with B2G support for open web apps?
    • jsmith: How do I get my apps to come up on persona-dev.mozillalabs.com/apps?
      • They don't appear to be coming up for me - Is this expected?
    • jsmith: Localization review for the desktop web runtime - Worth looking into?
      • Seen a bunch of bugs coming up related to manifest sanitization - affects localization
    • jsmith: Where are we tracking AITC documentation for the Apps team outside of AITC?
    • jsmith: Is Phase 1 of fennec native web apps still for chromefull web apps or has that changed?
      • Can the chromefull and chromeless implementations be separate releases?
      • Is there a compelling reason to go in one direction or the other (separating vs. going for chromeless first)?
    • jsmith: Would syncing up with crashkill folks (e.g. Kairo) be helpful for getting quicker traction on breakpad and socorro integration for the web runtime?
    • jsmith: What implementation is acceptable for supporting offline mode in firefox 15 - bug 749029?
    • jsmith: Could we get performance telemetry hooked up for the web runtime - specifically with start-up time for launch application?
      • Concerned about bug 753925 - Wondering how many users will be affected by it
  • roundtable
    • jsmith: Linux contributor outreach for desktop web apps - Advertising & Approach

Minutes

    • Google Mobile Web Compatibility - Starting to Get Traction in Partner Communication

google we want to get because they're so big we've had more success with facebook and twitter google has been webkit-heavy effort jason talking about someone from mozilla talking to representatives over at google

many of them are user-agent sniffing problems in some cases it's simple youtube will serve the right site except for the ua it depends, site by site

    • Questions and Concerns **

Myk: how can we move all these tasks away from "[at risk]" to "[on track]" ?

Anant: for AITC client, the Identity module is the big risk 

   - native, proper implementation is at risk
   - short-term implementation is done but a little hacky
   - proposal: Anant to meet up with Gavin

Toby: what about moving HSM machines, what is the target date? 

   Bill and Todd: Need this for June 21

Jason: what's the story for B2G support for Apps? 

   What's been implemented so far? All apps currently on b2g are open web apps
   What's been tested?
   Launch into chromeless window? Works
   Install into home screen? Works
   Marketplace App for B2G?

Todd: for Basecamp we need client side pieces by June 5; we need marketplace to look great at 320x480

Q: which version of persona.org to use for testing? https://persona-dev.mozillalabs.com/

Q: what's the deal with localization / internationalization for WebRT desktop? A: we should use the same localization process as moz-central does, generally

Q: where are AITC docs? what about testing? A: see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/aitc-manual-testing

Q: are we going to get chromeless apps on fennec? we were living with apps-in-a-tab earlier A: Wes is working on chromeless web apps for fennec! A: we're looking at building a separate app in the distro that launches without chrome; hard to run both it and Fennec at the same time A: ON TRACK to land in FF15

Q: can we sync up with crashkill folks to get progress on breakpad and socorro integration for WebRT desktop A: sure! Q: who should do it? A: myk will ask Kairo

Q: what status of offline / AppCache mode (see bug 749029) is acceptable for WebRT? A: pre-emptive loading of AppCache AT RISK for FF15; bug 749029 is a BLOCKER for FF15 A: Johnny says, prefilling AppCache in bug 753990 has patch with r-; we will not have scheduled updates for installed Applications

Q: can we get performance telemetry (esp. startup time) hooked up to WebRT (see bug 753925) A: Larwence says investigation is underway

Q: how will / should telemetry data for webapps show up in the server? A: not decided; there are privacy concerns

    • ROUNDTABLE **

Q: linux contributor outreach for WebRT? A: start by providing marco lots of support and encouragement; timely reviews, answer questions, etc A: open source folks in argentina and brazil are desktop linux people

Actions

  • -> myk to ask kairo for help with breakpad and socorro integration
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