Details

• Time: Tuesday, 2012 June 12, 9:00 - 9:45am PT (16:00 - 16:45 UTC)
• Backchannel:
  • irc.mozilla.org #openwebapps
• Virtual Location:
  • "Mozilla Apps" Vidyo room
• Physical Locations:
  • Mountain View: 4K - Kung Fu
  • San Francisco: 7N - Noise Pop
• Audio-only Access:
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  • +1-800-707-2533, pin: 369, conf#: 98652 (US toll free)

Agenda

• significant updates
  • AITC Desktop - 1st Test Pass Complete, Initial Triage Done, Blockers for 1st release listed here
  • Desktop Web Runtime - Current blockers listed here
  • QA - Possible test day for June 22nd for Desktop/Android Web Apps with Marketplace
• questions and concerns
  • need closure ASAP on API for installed apps versus acquired apps
  • "International Marketplace Potential Ship before B2G milestone" - What does this mean and how does it affect us?
  • Need a dedicated UX resource for web runtime
• roundtable
  • got any demoes for Apps Show and Tell, Friday noon?

Minutes

Significant Updates

test day on June 22

• given the urgency of Basecamp, is there a way to test B2G?
• there's a B2G for desktop bug

• we need to start filing compatibility bugs
• Ragavan strongly encourages folks to test on Fennec and file compatibility bugs
• often bugs are on the other end: UA sniffing, not using properties that are available
• don't just look at layout and CSS issues but also functionality issues
• Aaron has tools: screenshot tool for comparing screenshots, tool for opening sites in your browser and reporting whether it looks/feels right
• question about how to convert reports into bugs

• Fennec folks planning to land apps functionality on nightly
• we could test that on test day as well

status of new b2g test devices?

• rags to ask clee and get back to clouserw about it
• marketplace team is not blocked but can't publish anything; is testing on Samsung Galaxy S2
• marketplace team waiting for native browserid to land, which is supposed to happen this week
• platform support should be everywhere, but UI is product-specific
• felipe's team is working on desktop Firefox UI

Questions and Concerns

need closure ASAP on API for installed apps versus acquired apps

• it would be really cool if marketplace could distinguish between installed and acquired apps
• we have a way to determine this for both mac and windows
• and we have patches for both platforms
• folks are arguing about whether and how to do this
• myk to send jst background info on installed vs. acquired apps issue
• jst to contact anant and suggest next steps for resolving issue

status of apps on fennec?

• wes just landed two patches for apps on fennec
• it should be possible to test apps on fennec on the june 22 test day
• wes should be able to get a build to apps folks
• wes to generate and distribute Fennec build with apps support on dev-webapps

"International Marketplace Potential Ship before B2G milestone" - What does this mean and how does it affect us?

• marketplace folks heard there's going to be an international release of the marketplace before we launch it in brazil
• rags doesn't think that's the case
• plan is to launch english content english-speaking for north america, uk, and australia
• for those it won't be necessary to localize the site
• goal is to get marketplace for desktop and android so developers can start developing apps and we can get a sense of how the ecosystem works as a whole
• marketplace will be accessible to every firefox user
• but english-speaking content initially
• we will not be supporting chrome and other browsers

Need a dedicated UX resource for web runtime

• dils is not going to be working on the desktop runtime anymore
• bclark can review proposals that we come up with
• in the meantime, engineers will have to design the UI, with feedback from bclark and ticachica

Roundtable

• demos happen fridays at noon
• demo your stuff! you may think folks know about it, but they don't!

• we have a quarterly goal to complete the runtimes and AITC
• get your stuff in by the end of the month!
• that way we have a buffer before the merge on July 17 (16?)

Actions

• wes to generate and distribute Fennec build with apps support on dev-webapps
• myk to send jst background info on installed vs. acquired apps issue
• jst to contact anant and suggest next steps for resolving issue