Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-09-12

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Details

  • Time: Wednesday, 2012 September 12, 9:05 - 9:55am PT (16:05 - 16:55 UTC)
  • Backchannel:
  • Virtual Location:
  • Physical Locations:
    • Mountain View: 4K - Kung Fu
    • San Francisco: 324 - Bay Bridge
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  • etherpad for taking minutes

Agenda

P1 Firefox OS Basecamp

  • Significant Updates
    • payments (Caitlin) - V1 currently in UX. Disregard rumors.
    • (jsmith) The current story in the quality world, priorities, and the connection to apps
      • Read and understand this doc
  • Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
    • (jsmith) 3rd party app updates mozapps API changes planned in bug 790558 - Please ask your questions and provide feedback
    • (jsmith) Installation of packaged apps is changing in bug 789527
  • Questions and Concerns
    • packaged apps? (Caitlin)
    • apps review process w/ Telefonica. need to finalize overview w/ Lisa. (Caitlin)
    • (jsmith) If push comes to shove, what apps features could be cut from basecamp that are currently marked as blockers?
  • Roundtable
    • (jsmith) Our process with meetings

P2/3 Other Projects

  • Significant Updates
  • Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
  • Questions and Concerns
    • (jsmith) Is marketplace, marketing, etc on-board to target a FF 17 release of Android WebRT? Or are there outstanding concerns on that date?
    • (jsmith) Need a product decision on bug 787188

Minutes

P1 Firefox OS Basecamp

V1 payments

  • all focus should be on v1
  • plan mostly worked out
  • UX in the process of massaging the flow across entire experience
  • you might hear folks talking about v2
  • but the focus should remain on v1
  • some folks at telefonica are not yet clear about the plan
  • they are having internal discussions about v1 vs. v2
  • but folks at Mozilla have a shared understanding of the plan

QA Status

  • -> pmpcat to follow up with rfant about QA priorities and communicate rationale

3rd party app updates

  • -> clouserw to review third party app update proposal and provide feedback
  • -> pmpcat to get anant to review third party app update proposal
  • -> pmpcat to ensure all outstanding questions about third party app updates are reflected in "scratchpad" etherpad

packaged apps installation changes

  • bug 789527 makes a change to the way we install packaged apps
  • check it out!
  • -> clouserw to get marketplace devs to review packaged app installation changes
  • bug 790669

hosted vs. packaged marketplace

  • fabrice talked to potch about it
  • it would be difficult to have marketplace as packaged app
  • a lot of work for the marketplace team
  • so marketplace will be hosted app, at least for v1
  • there is also the question of certified vs. not certified
  • it doesn't seem like marketplace needs to be certified
  • and there is the question of how to cache marketplace
  • folks are working on it
  • -> clouserw to communicate out that marketplace will be hosted app and not certified

cutting basecamp blockers

  • not the right group to address this question
  • but folks are working on feature list with telefonica
  • force ranking features, decide on cut line
  • we should do that with apps as well

definition of third party apps

  • all apps submitted to the marketplace are third party
  • but any website can install an app, and those are also third party
  • all apps from any site, whether from mozilla marketplace or other sites, are third party apps

meetings

  • some meetings don't feel necessary
  • don't attend meetings you don't have to attend!
  • decline invitations!
  • provide feedback to organizers about meeting agendas/invitee lists

P2/P3 Other Projects

Android WebRT FF 17 blockers

  • bug 785496 and bug 785547

devhub v2

  • morgamic working with kdangoor
  • should see changes on marketplace.mozilla.org in the next two weeks
  • can see them today at marketplace-dev.allizom.org
  • starting to look like a real devhub!
  • morgamic meeting with MDN folks on integration

Firefox for Android 17 Apps Marketing

  • product delivery meetings starting up for Apps for Android
  • first meeting is Monday

Dev Engagement Focus on Fennec vs. B2G Runtime

  • where to point developers?
  • in first dev day, talked about Firefox nightlies and responsive design view
  • great question for product delivery meeting
  • -> pmpcat to send out notices for product delivery meetings

need for product decision on bug 787188

  • discussion about snippets on Android about:home screen
  • need a product decision or a marketing decision from dhorner
  • dhorner is back from vacation, will tackle it

workflow reviews

  • pmpcat setting up reviews of all workflows around developers, consumers, payments
  • will be reviewing those with morgamic, kumar, robhudson, and adora
  • reviewing them also with mmayo so infrastructure can focus on sla, high availability, georedundancy, etc.
  • let pmpcat know if you'd like to join the review!

Actions

pmpcat

  • follow up with rfant about QA priorities and communicate rationale
  • get anant to review third party app update proposal (bug 790558)
  • ensure all outstanding questions about third party app updates, particularly those from "packaged-apps" etherpad, are reflected in "scratchpad" etherpad
  • send out notices for product delivery meetings

clouserw

  • review third party app update proposal (bug 790558) and provide feedback
  • get marketplace devs to review packaged app installation changes (DONE per bug 790669?)
  • communicate out that marketplace will be hosted app and not certified