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June 18th, 2013 @ 11:30am PDT / 2:30pm EDT

dial-in:

• vidyo: Jgriffin's vidyo room
  • guest link: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=vjLJS93feY9p

Backchannel #ateam on irc.mozilla.org

Take meeting notes here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/great-automation-refactor Then copy and paste them below afterwards

Meeting Notes

Quick Status Updates

• [ahal] using in-tree mozbase for test harnesses now (bug 855893)
• [ahal] import mozbase by adding modules to sys.path instead of crazy hack
• [jhammel] make check locally works, try run coming soon, optimistic it'll stick this time
• [chmanchester] starting on the javascript side (log4moz.js): see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884397
• [jmaher] close to finishing manifests for mochitests (bug 852416)
• [ted] working on mozinfo integration with test harnesses, added find_and_read_json method

Issues of the Two Weeks (since you looked at me)

• Agenda for mozbase work week? Propose items below
  • brainstorm the creation of a mozbase "manifesto" -- both a high-level statement vision of the purpose of the project, and a detailed roadmap of how to make it live up to that vision [jhammel: a big +1][nalexander: another big +1 here]
    • what components are we missing, if any?
    • where should shared code live that doesn't belong in a mozbase component?
    • [jhammel: I would (OTTOMH) go for a manifesto with a clear, short exec summary==vision statement and then a longer (not very long) high-level explanation of how all this fits together: an aggressive plan of attack to the stars]
    • I would tend
  • machine readable logging - how to get off to a running start? [chmanchester]
  • figure out and prototype approach to multiprocessing in tests? likewise get off to running start [mineahdb]
    • we are starting with xpcshell apparently: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660788
    • reftests are also being worked on in bug 813742.
  • strategizing on how to write tests for ffledging's gsoc project? [jhammel: +1; i'd be willing to triage andor audit/help triage andor audit to this end]
  • finish up mozrunner refactor and make sure it is a viable replacement for mozb2g
    • mozb2g/eideticker, can we replace it? What's the best path forward?
    • moztest? common code etc.
  • manifestdestiny/mozprocess lots of work to do (tracking bugs?)

Decisions for /the future/

• CI failures: to note on bug?
  • add to policy :)
• mock, etc, libraries in testing?
  • leaning towards not using external dependencies unless absolutely necessary

Mozbase, Packaging, Mirroring and the Future of M-C

Areas of Development

Mozbase has essentially two domains in need of development effort: improvement of the mozbase software and integration of the mozbase packages with (largely legacy) targetted consumers.

• manifestdestiny
• mozprocess
• tests (ffledgling)