Calendar:QA Chat:2006-02-08:Log
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[11:28] <ctalbert> We will start the QA Chat in just a moment. [11:33] <ctalbert> Ok, let's get started. [11:33] <ctalbert> Welcome everyone [11:33] <ctalbert> The agenda is at: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:QA_Chat:2007-02-08 [11:34] -->| ulf (ulf@moz-7A1DEEB2.sun.com) has joined #calendar-qa [11:34] <ctalbert> We have a test day tomorrow. I realize that it's probably very inconvenient to have a test day on Friday, but it was the only day open to us. It will be a normal 12 hour length test day. The information about it is here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:QA_Chat:2007-02-08 [11:35] <ctalbert> We'll be checking the timezone fixes, and the localizations for the0.3.1 release. [11:35] <ctalbert> If all goes well tomorrow, then 0.3.1 will probably be released early next week. [11:35] <xFallenAngel> *claps* [11:35] <ctalbert> I've been running it a little over the last few days and have not found any new issues. :-) [11:37] <ctalbert> That's about all the news I have at the moment. [11:38] <ctalbert> After the test day tomorrow, we will be taking a couple weeks off from test days. After tomorrow, the next test day will either be the 29th or the 5th. [11:38] <ctalbert> oh wait, i'm looking at january... [11:38] <ctalbert> ah...that makes more sense, it will be the 27th. [11:39] * ctalbert learns how to use a calendar [11:39] <ctalbert> Hopefully by then some of the big patches will have time to land, like the google calendar provider, the new views, maybe even iTIP [11:40] <ctalbert> s/new views/view enhancements [11:41] <ctalbert> Ok. Let's go on to the QA Discussion needed List: [11:41] <Sebo> do you have a bug number for view enhancements? [11:41] <ctalbert> There is only one bug: bug 348892 [11:41] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348892 nor, --, ---, lilmatt@mozilla.com, ASSI, Need a published calendar for Calendar Project Events [11:41] <ctalbert> yes, one moment. [11:42] <mschroeder> I moved this bug from qawanted (marked by damian) to qa discussion needed. [11:42] <ctalbert> bug 368982 [11:42] <ctalbert> Sebo ^^ [11:42] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368982 enh, --, ---, michael.buettner@sun.com, NEW, visual enhancements for calendar event boxes [11:42] <Sebo> thanks! [11:42] <ctalbert> np [11:42] <xFallenAngel> wow looks nice [11:43] <ctalbert> Yeah, I'm very excited about the view update. [11:43] <ctalbert> mschroeder: bug 348892 (the qa discussion bug) is another news item. [11:43] <mschroeder> i know :) [11:44] <ctalbert> Yesterday xFallenAngel and I put together a google calendar to use for the entire calendar project. There is a link to that calendar in the bug. We're waiting on the official approval to go live with it. [11:44] <ctalbert> But, in the meantime, I'll endeavor to keep that calendar as up to date as I can. [11:44] <xFallenAngel> matthaeus123 is right, rss is possible, I haven't thought of that. Check out http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/u7pke58sc91ksbm4h9pf9ofe8c%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic?alt=rss [11:44] <mschroeder> I'll remove the [aq] [11:44] <ctalbert> Thanks [11:45] <ctalbert> that is sweet [11:45] <ctalbert> I won't have to write any more blog entries! hahaha [11:45] <ctalbert> Okay, on to QAWanted [11:46] <ctalbert> We have 18 of them. Not too bad. [11:46] <ctalbert> The first one is 255995 - any updates on this? [11:47] <xFallenAngel> I still haven't had time to test the deflate mod, but its still available under http://mozilla.kewis.ch/dav/deflate/ [11:47] <ctalbert> What do you have to do to test this? Just create a calendar in that location? [11:48] <xFallenAngel> basically yes. It says we should "reload remote calendars on startup", this is done automatically anyway. [11:49] <ctalbert> I'll give it a shot later. [11:49] <xFallenAngel> create calendar (maybe externally) + restart [11:49] <ctalbert> cool. Next up is bug 277941 [11:49] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277941 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, FTP password pops up every time I make an addition to my calendar. [11:50] <ctalbert> Looks like it might already be confirmed, per comment 6. I might be able to try it out tomorrow. I'm setting up my newly reinstalled linux box with DAV and FTP etc today. [11:51] <ctalbert> Bug 285779 is next [11:51] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285779 min, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Problems updating with distributed calendar using tomcat webdav [11:51] <xFallenAngel> wait :) I haven't had that problem, at least with my ftp server and sunbird. I haven't had time to get thunderbird ready for testing, maybe its specific to that (#4 dosen't specify a build id) [11:52] <xFallenAngel> (that was regarding 277941) [11:52] <xFallenAngel> that == lightning [11:52] <Sebo> I just tried with lightning + ftp --> no prob [11:53] <mschroeder> 277941: maybe this happens with a htaccess file on the ftp (see comment #3) [11:53] <ctalbert> On 277941, the original problem was calendar extension and firefox. The guy in comment 6 evidently used sunbird [11:54] <ctalbert> oh wait, both sunbird and lightning [11:54] <xFallenAngel> mschroeder: a htaccess file? I thought that was only honored by web servers? [11:55] <mschroeder> i only read what jminta stated in comment#3 [11:55] <mschroeder> but you're right [11:58] <ctalbert> Hmmm...so, we have one person who sees the problem, and none of us do. [11:58] <xFallenAngel> I say see what ctalbert finds out tomorrow, and/or otherwise mark as WFM [11:58] <Sebo> I used ftp://user@server maybe there is a difference to using just ftp://server... [11:59] <ctalbert> yeah, I doubt I would find anything different than you and Sebo, but let's do that. I'll see what I find tomorrow. [11:59] <ctalbert> So...on to 285779, more webdav [12:00] <ctalbert> Isn't this solved by the "automatic refresh" preference that was recently added to the codebase? [12:01] <xFallenAngel> Yes, I think so. Also, this is on sunbird 0.2, which is pretty old :) [12:01] <Sebo> it should be solved - and its quite old [12:01] <Sebo> hehe [12:02] <xFallenAngel> I tried to find the webdav server of tomcat, I couldn't. I do have tomcat installed on my server, bu I never found anything about webdav there [12:02] <ctalbert> Let's mark as WFM and ask them to retest with a current build. [12:02] <Sebo> the cosmo thing runs with tomcat, I think [12:02] <xFallenAngel> but thats caldav [12:02] <ctalbert> rather, ask them to re-open if they can still reproduce the issue with a current build [12:03] <ctalbert> Bug 286680 is next up with more webdav fun [12:03] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286680 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, webdav ics file blank after succesfully subscribing [12:04] -->| nightrat (nightrat@moz-88882DC3.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #calendar-qa [12:04] <ctalbert> hi Nightrat: we're going through the QAWanted list at the moment. You can find it here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Calendar&keywords=qawanted [12:05] <xFallenAngel> I believe this may be something wrongly configured on his server, I cannot imagine what should "blank" the file and then magically restore it [12:05] <ctalbert> Bug 286680 is another old one [12:05] <nightrat> hi ctalbert, thanks [12:05] <ctalbert> Yeah, I'm thinking WFM this one too, considering its age. [12:06] <ctalbert> (and lack of comments and dupes) [12:06] <xFallenAngel> If we want to be helpful, ask him to post his mod_dav configuration, if he uses different users, etc. But I'm fine with WFM too [12:06] <ctalbert> Well, let's do that first. [12:06] <xFallenAngel> I'll do that [12:06] <ctalbert> If this is still an issue, it's a bad issue. [12:06] <ctalbert> Thankx [12:08] <ctalbert> Bug 295633 is next. I don't have a linux PPC machine to test on. [12:08] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295633 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, "New Event" freezes Sunbird [12:08] <ctalbert> I recommend asking the reporter to reproduce this issue with a current build. [12:09] <ctalbert> Next, bug 309490 [12:09] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309490 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Sharing non private events with OpenGroupware Calendar, events disappear from local calendar when i [12:10] <ctalbert> I believe there was an issue with OpenGroupWare and our timezone definitions. They needed the TZDef's at the end or the beginning of the file, and generally did the opposite. [12:11] <ctalbert> I wonder if that could be his problem if the remtoe calendar he is publishing to is an ICS calendar [12:12] <Sebo> well, if he sees his calendar in the first place, it should be another problem [12:13] <Sebo> I have the feeling, that his ics-file is generated on the fly and maybe only includes private events??? [12:13] <ctalbert> That's an interesting theory [12:14] <Sebo> its probably too simple [12:14] <ctalbert> Let's see if we can get him to try it again with a recent nightly. The calendar link still seems to work, but I don't know what to use for authentication [12:14] <xFallenAngel> Also, tell him to includ js console messages [12:15] <ctalbert> +1 [12:15] <ctalbert> Bug 311516 is next [12:15] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311516 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Sunbird stops working when trying to open from network drive [12:15] <firebot> jorescobar@yahoo.com set the Resolution field on bug 286680 to WORKSFORME. [12:15] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286680 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, RESO WORKSFORME, webdav ics file blank after succesfully subscribing [12:16] <xFallenAngel> hey that was quick [12:17] <ctalbert> Yeah, but unhelpful. --> comment 3 on 286680 [12:17] <xFallenAngel> yeah... Should I try to convince him to give it a try? [12:18] <ctalbert> Go for it, if you want. It'd be worth it to get better information [12:19] <ctalbert> But you're probably fighting an uphill battle. [12:19] <xFallenAngel> thats ok, I have enough energy for one more comment :) [12:19] <ctalbert> :-) I may add a comment on it too. I'm drawn to uphill battles. ;-) [12:19] <ctalbert> Bug 311516 [12:20] <ctalbert> This one looks pretty simple to test. I'll do it in a bit. [12:20] <ctalbert> Bug 320362 is next [12:20] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320362 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Unable to subscribe to remote calendar [12:22] <Sebo> 311516: I think it is not yet supported to open ics file with sunbird [12:23] <ctalbert> Do you meant to open it over the network? [12:24] <Sebo> no I mean to right click on ics file and say "open with sunbird" [12:24] <Sebo> no matter if network or local [12:24] <ctalbert> That was recently fixed (or attempted to be fixed) -- within the last few days. [12:24] <Sebo> i know.. [12:24] <ctalbert> Ah... [12:26] <Sebo> anyway, i just tried with network drive using file://n/something and that works fine [12:26] <ctalbert> I understand now. (sorry, I'm a little slow today). We may want to reopen that bug then. Did you associate the file via the control panel->Internet options->Programs tab? [12:27] <Sebo> now I dont understand. Are you talking about 311516 ? [12:28] <firebot> jminta@gmail.com granted second-review for attachment 253119 on bug 367157. [12:28] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367157 min, --, ---, sebastian.schwieger@googlemail.com, ASSI, Cannot uncheck migrators on data migration wizard [12:28] <ctalbert> That last comment refers to the new "register sunbird as a default application to handle ICS files" on windows bug (the one that was just fixed) [12:30] <xFallenAngel> (which are the current "latest" nightlies, I don't quite remember. were they in latest-mozilla1.8? 0.3.1 is getting me confused ;) [12:30] <Sebo> no, on trunk [12:30] <ctalbert> latest nightlies for lightning --> trunk [12:30] <xFallenAngel> in latest-trunk there is only 0.3.1 [12:30] <ctalbert> latest nightlies for sunbird -->branch [12:30] <xFallenAngel> ah yes :) [12:30] <ctalbert> Does that help? [12:31] <xFallenAngel> yeah [12:31] <ctalbert> Sebo, since 311516 is primarily about finding a way to share a calendar via a mapped drive, and you've verified it, can you post a comment to the bug and mark it as WFM. [12:31] <ctalbert> ? [12:31] <ctalbert> please? [12:31] <Sebo> sure [12:31] <ctalbert> thx [12:32] <firebot> jminta@gmail.com granted second-review for attachment 253721 on bug 367170. [12:32] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367170 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Thunderbird crashed when I entered calendar's URL in the Location field [12:32] <ctalbert> I think we are nearly out of time. We got about half way through them, which is good. [12:32] <ctalbert> Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? [12:33] <xFallenAngel> I don't :) [12:33] <ctalbert> thanks. [12:34] <ctalbert> Ok. I'll go on and mark the QA Chat as ended. If you have time and want to continue walking through the QAWanted list, I'd be willing to keep going. [12:35] <ctalbert> The you up there ^^ is plural and refers to everyone... [12:36] <ctalbert> No takers? That's ok. [12:36] <mschroeder> okay [12:36] <ctalbert> OOh! [12:36] <Archaeopteryx> bug 368737 could be closed [12:36] <firebot> Archaeopteryx: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368737 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Calendar view/pane does not show / display events (are missing) / stops working [12:36] <Archaeopteryx> i would reopen it if i had the problem again [12:37] <ctalbert> Woah, that sounds serious. Why should it be closed? [12:37] <ctalbert> Oh, ok. You filed it. [12:37] <--| Andreas has left #calendar-qa [12:37] <Archaeopteryx> because i tried reproducing and haven't managed it. no data is lost [12:37] <firebot> sebastian.schwieger@googlemail.com set the Resolution field on bug 311516 to WORKSFORME. [12:37] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311516 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, RESO WORKSFORME, Sunbird stops working when trying to open from network drive [12:38] <ctalbert> Archaeopteryx: Ok. You can go ahead and close it. [12:38] <Archaeopteryx> but ok, let it two weeks after 0.3.1 open and we will see if someone else sees this [12:38] <ctalbert> that sounds fine. [12:39] <mschroeder> Next one is bug 320362? [12:39] <firebot> mschroeder: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320362 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Unable to subscribe to remote calendar [12:39] <ctalbert> yep, that's next [12:39] <ctalbert> oh wait, I'm in the middle of replying to the guy in comment 13 to get more information. [12:40] <mschroeder> okay :) [12:40] <ctalbert> Let's see if we can get more information from him, maybe have him retest it. [12:40] <ctalbert> bug 339960 [12:40] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339960 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, event editor adds 2 hours to time when saving to webdav [12:42] <mschroeder> this sounds impossible. [12:43] <ctalbert> The most likely case where this would happen would be if we somehow lost the timezone definitions for his calendar, and converted everything to our "utc floating" fallback. [12:43] <ctalbert> We need an OpenXChange Webdav server. [12:43] <ctalbert> Maybe I can try that install on my nifty new linux box. [12:43] <Sebo> other possibility: openXchange does not recognize our timezone [12:43] <mschroeder> also for Bug 369076 [12:43] <firebot> mschroeder: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369076 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, webdav calendar open-xchange - events not deleted [12:44] <ctalbert> Yeah, I hesititate it to mark it WFM because we are getting a few OpenXChange related issues trickling in. Sebo: good point. [12:45] <Sebo> I will ask him for an ics file [12:45] <ctalbert> okay [12:46] <ctalbert> Bug 340488 is next. [12:46] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340488 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, birthday's listed double after upgrade to a new sunbird version [12:46] =-= ulf is now known as ulf|away [12:46] <ctalbert> I will try this tomorrow as part of the test day. I'll upgrade from 0.2 to 0.3.1, and see what happens. [12:47] <mschroeder> okay [12:47] <ctalbert> Bug 349641 [12:47] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349641 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, lightning extension asks for master password again [12:48] <ctalbert> I wonder if this one might be a Tbird 1.5.x issue. [12:48] <ctalbert> I've been running Lightning 0.3 on Thunderbird since we released it and have not had this problem (neither on my 1.5.x or on 2.0) and I use a master password. [12:48] <mschroeder> i don't use master password [12:48] <Sebo> me neither [12:49] <ctalbert> But, I upgraded to 2.x nightlies a long time ago, so I don't remember 1.5.x very well. [12:49] * Archaeopteryx also not [12:50] <ctalbert> Hmm...I have been running on a mac all this time. Let's try this one tomorrow with tbird 1.5.9/tbird 2b2 and LTN 0.3.1 [12:50] <ctalbert> It should be pretty simple to test [12:50] <Sebo> is it in 0.3.1? [12:51] <ctalbert> It's been reported against both 0.3 and 0.4a1, so I'd like to know if it is in 0.3.1 or not. [12:51] <Sebo> I dont remember... [12:52] <Sebo> you are right, it should be [12:52] <firebot> jminta@gmail.com cancelled second-review?(jminta@gmail.com) for attachment 243550 on bug 358110. [12:52] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358110 nor, --, Sunbird 0.5, lilmatt@mozilla.com, ASSI, Mac: Sunbird should be registered for ICS files and webcal[s] URLs [12:52] <ctalbert> Bug 351459 is up [12:52] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351459 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Calendar displays in 12 hour format; no option to change to 24 hour [12:53] <mschroeder> we need someone with kubuntu [12:54] <ctalbert> Is it substantially different from ubuntu? I just installed ubuntu [12:54] <ctalbert> Of course, I haven't done anything with it yet, I could reinstall pretty easily [12:54] =-= eor|afk is now known as eor [12:54] <mschroeder> Can KDE influence the date format? [12:55] <ctalbert> good question. I dunno. [12:55] <Sebo> I would guess so [12:55] <ctalbert> I'll reinstall and use Kubuntu [12:55] <ctalbert> maybe I can dual boot [12:56] <ctalbert> Bug 356269 is next, and seems odd... [12:56] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356269 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, localization will not work Lightning are always english [12:57] <mschroeder> that's something for the testday tomorrow [12:57] <ctalbert> definitely [12:58] <ctalbert> Especially the part in comment 7 where it switches back to English. That would be very annoying. [12:58] * ctalbert tries to imagine my install suddenly switching to German [12:58] <mschroeder> :) [12:59] <ctalbert> Bug 356382 is next. [12:59] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356382 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Import from Palm Pilot (jpilot export) [12:59] <Sebo> hehe - it will force you to learn German [12:59] <ctalbert> Sebo: Maybe that would be good. If I'm going to be there in a month or two.... [12:59] <mschroeder> No response from reporter so far. [13:00] <ctalbert> mschroeder: I see that. :-( [13:01] <ctalbert> I'm going to ask again, threaten to unmark QAWanted if he doesn't send us an ICS file -- there won't be much we can do on it unless we aquire some palm pilots [13:01] <mschroeder> We should create a spin-off bug for "Only one beep, even for 1000 missed appointments." [13:02] <ctalbert> I agree. I can't remember if that is already filed or not. Will you look into it? [13:03] <mschroeder> okay [13:05] <ctalbert> Thanks! The infamous bug 361800 is next [13:05] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361800 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Windows Restore causes events to disappear [13:05] <ctalbert> Googling turned up this page: http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2109p156id111652.htm [13:06] <ctalbert> Which if you read through basically says in order to not lose your data you need to back up the "Application Data" directory when doing a windows restore. [13:07] <ctalbert> They recommend archiving everything from Documents and Settings, so that would include our profile directory. This poor person probably didn't know that before they did the system restore [13:07] <mschroeder> is a "system restore" the same as a reinstall? [13:08] <ctalbert> It brings the system back to a prior state. Reading through the bug again, he didn't do a Vendor Restore, which would take your machine back to its factory state. [13:09] <ctalbert> He actually created a Restore Point and restored from there. THat's a little different. I will try this on a VM system and see what happens. I had thought he did a Vendor Restore. [13:09] <mschroeder> okay [13:09] <ctalbert> Bug 367378 is next and looks familiar [13:10] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367378 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, creating an event which occures after the daylight saving shift, make view 1 hour off [13:11] <ctalbert> Let's try this one tomorrow with 0.3.1 before we mark it as a duplicate. [13:11] <ctalbert> I say this because Asia/Jerusalem has very odd DST rules. [13:11] <Sebo> this would be bad [13:11] <ctalbert> I think they base the DST change off a lunar calendar or something. [13:12] <Sebo> the attached ics calendar does not have DST [13:12] <Sebo> so, yes the timezone rule is wrong [13:13] <ctalbert> I wonder if our more complete timezone database that is in 0.3.1 will fix it [13:13] <ctalbert> It probably won't upgrade the event correctly, but a new event in that timezone that is created by 0.3.1 might be ok. [13:14] * ctalbert will check this one today after lunch -- we need to know ASAP if there is a problem there. [13:14] <Sebo> as I read it in http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/calendar/base/src/tzdata.c#1397 there is still no DST [13:15] <ctalbert> Sebo this looks bad [13:15] <Sebo> yeah [13:15] * ctalbert checks online [13:16] <ctalbert> Guys: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=110 [13:16] <ctalbert> DST starts March 30, 2007 [13:17] <Sebo> I wonder how many other mistakes there possibly could be :-( [13:17] <ctalbert> This one might be the same as the Australia/Perth problem. The DST rule was too complex and Vzic didn't convert it. [13:18] <ctalbert> Yeah, there's only one way to find out. Brute force timezone checking.... [13:18] <ctalbert> There was a guy who offered to write some automation for this. But I don't think he can do it before tomorrow. [13:18] <ctalbert> lilmatt: ping [13:18] <ctalbert> Let's go on. I'll raise this issue with lilmatt [13:19] <ctalbert> Oh, there are only two left. We already talked about 368737, so 369076 is next [13:19] <ctalbert> doh, we talked about that one too [13:19] <ctalbert> Ok. [13:20] <Sebo> finished? [13:20] <ctalbert> Back to timezone testing. I can go through the tzdata.c file and check it agianst the WorldMeeting site. That might be good to give us an indication if any other timezones were truncated by VZic [13:20] <ctalbert> Sebo: yes [13:21] <ctalbert> That would probably be the most expedient check that we could do [13:21] <ctalbert> Thanks for your help going through these today, folks