Calendar:QA Chat:2006-04-26:Log
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[11:30] ctalbert Looks like it's about time to start the QA Chat meeting [11:31] ctalbert Hmm...no current agenda, so we'll just reuse the one from last week for the links: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Current_QA_Chat [11:32] ctalbert We only have one remaining blocker before 0.5 RC is ready to go. I am reviewing that blocker right now. [11:32] ctalbert er..reviewing a patch for that blocker [11:33] bvdbos is there a patch already, does the save before send work? [11:33] ctalbert there is a patch [11:33] ctalbert and give me one sec... [11:34] ctalbert yes, the event is formatted correctly. [11:34] ctalbert Daniel: Looks like the patch works :-) [11:35] daniel ok [11:35] firebot ctalbert.moz@gmail.com granted review for attachment 262888 on bug 377641. [11:36] firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377641 maj, --, ---, ctalbert.moz@gmail.com, NEW, Outlook 2003 does not read iTIP/iMIP invitation because of missing UID in VEVENT [11:36] ctalbert So, as I was saying, the next nightly will be the 0.5 RC1 ;-) [11:36] bvdbos :-) [11:36] daniel so hopefully no regressions... [11:36] ctalbert yeah, hopefully not. [11:37] daniel you check in? [11:37] ctalbert Sure I can check it in after the QA Chat [11:38] ctalbert So, we should start testing the nightlies tomorrow, looking for any regressions, since this will essentially start the release process for 0.5. [11:38] ssitter (the next nightly might be the 0.5 RC1 if you switch all the tinderbox settings today and other stuff like disabling Firefox support, ...) [11:38] ctalbert yes, that's true. [11:38] ctalbert We would also need to start working on the localized builds. [11:39] ctalbert But, I think it makes sense to have a test day on Tuesday since 0.5 is essentially "code-complete" at this point. This was the last blocking bug. [11:40] ctalbert The only problem with having a test day on Tuesday is that I will be travelling again. That is the day I go out to california and start at MoCo so I don't know how availble I will be on that day. [11:41] ctalbert But, I think we should have one anyway, and start getting the "release candidate candidate" in front of people. [11:41] bvdbos not to be a pain in the ass, but doesn't bug 377761 also block? [11:41] firebot bvdbos: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377761 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Outlook 200x does not recognize iTIP/iMIP invitation because of MIME type issues [11:43] ctalbert No, it doesn't. With the UID issue fixed, when the user double clicks on the "attached" ICS in Outlook, Outlook opens it as a calendar event and allows the user to add it to the calendar. [11:44] bvdbos Then it's a WFM? I hope this is also solved now but not sure. We'll have to leave a comment then for the reporter [11:44] Andreas I think the last one is bug 372287, the Mac OS 10.3 bug [11:44] firebot Andreas: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372287 cri, --, ---, lilmatt@flock.com, NEW, Sunbird crashes on open in Mac OS 10.3, works in Mac OS 10.4 [11:45] ctalbert It is something we want to fix, but not something we need to fix for 0.5. While Outlook doesn't recognize our ICS a a calendar attachment innately, it does add it to the calendar properly once the UID issue is fixed. [11:46] bvdbos ok... Andreas, sipaq wrote abouw this on the weblog, though it's sincere, it's not blocking... [11:46] ssitter talkback finds four reports of this Mac OS X crash for Sunbird, for Thunderbird I wasn't able to find anything [11:46] Andreas ok [11:46] ctalbert ssitter: That's interesting. The code ought to break on either app. Maybe no one with 10.3 runs Thunderbird?? [11:46] daniel lilmatt already has a system set up for that, will investigate further [11:48] ctalbert It seems unlikely that no one with 10.3 is running lightning though... [11:48] bvdbos Did someone try the idea of mvl? It seems unlikely to me this will fix it, but you never know... [11:50] ctalbert I don't think so. I think lilmatt has been concentrating on setting up the system. He was able to successfully reproduce the crash on Tuesday. [11:51] ctalbert I looked at mvl's suggestion, I don't see that it would necessarily change anything, but without a 10.3 box, I can't really try it out. [11:52] ctalbert Speaking of the F2F meeting, are there any questions? (I will be uploading notes for the last day onto the wiki page after this meeting) [11:52] ctalbert brb [11:52] daniel when will be the next one? :-) [11:53] ctalbert heh, I don't know. [11:53] ssitter today + x [11:54] ctalbert I'm not getting back on a plane today! :-) [11:54] daniel so maybe next week... ;-) [11:55] daniel you are going by truck to california? or by plane? [11:55] ctalbert plane [11:55] daniel and moving your stuff will do your wife then? ;-) [11:56] ctalbert I'll be back in Austin on May 10 for a couple of months [11:56] ctalbert Then we'll drive to CA in early July [11:56] ctalbert But, anyhow....we have 14 bugs on QA Discussion list. [11:57] ctalbert the first one is bug 247486 [11:57] firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247486 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, can't load several calendars with different passwords on same server [11:57] bvdbos this one has gotten nasty [11:58] bvdbos see my comment 12 [11:59] ctalbert that's what I'm currently reading [12:02] ctalbert It looks to me like something odd is going on between these URLs and the password manager [12:02] daniel at least wcap has no problem since it is doing the password manager lookup/saving by itself [12:03] daniel needs to do so, because the password is sent encoded into url [12:03] ctalbert Is it really a valid use-case that a server would have the same name for two different authentication realms. [12:04] bvdbos yes it is like Pete claims... there are several providers which serve this. This morning I found out that icalx has a workaround though [12:04] ctalbert What's the workaround for them? [12:04] bvdbos icalx serves the username in the realm [12:05] bvdbos so it gets stored as (iCalX Username calname.ics) || username || password [12:06] bvdbos but also the problem exists for simple webdav, you can't subsribe with user@domain/cal.ics [12:06] ctalbert Ok. I think I understand. Essentially the bug is that we need to handle this sort of access in our authorization. [12:07] bvdbos yep, relnote would be enough for now though... user:pass@domain/cal.ics works as does does domain/cal.ics as long as anonymous access is blocked by the server [12:08] ctalbert It sounds like a valid bug to me. It also sounds like we have a good test case for it too. [12:08] ctalbert I'll add the relnote settting to the whiteboard then. Is there anything else we should change on this bug? [12:09] bvdbos If you agree my comment is clear enough, just ommit qa-discussion [12:09] ctalbert I think it's fine. [12:09] ctalbert thx for the research on that one. [12:09] ctalbert Next up is bug 266102 [12:09] firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266102 tri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Cancelling a calendar add opens calendar window [12:12] firebot ctalbert.moz@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 266102 to INVALID. [12:12] mschroeder agreed ;) [12:12] ctalbert That one was pretty easy. Next is bug 291717 [12:12] ctalbert heh [12:12] firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291717 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, CalendarEvent.ics - UNICODE [email event needs to use UTF-8] [12:13] bvdbos I think we can use the writing code elsewhere (importing non-utf8) but this bug is invalid I think [12:14] ctalbert yes, that code is no longer in the product, and I believe we use UTF-8 just fine now when working with invitations. [12:15] ssitter has anyone tested invitations with some non-ascii content, e.g. Chinese characters? [12:17] ctalbert I did some time ago, and it worked. Although, I have one bug open about non-ANSI characters coming in from Outlook. Essentially if you use Outlook to send an invitation with accents on letters (i.e. German or French or whatnot) then those get munged when we read the invitation. We should add UTF-8 testing to our testcases. [12:18] bvdbos There's two or three bugs for importing and reading non-utf8 [12:19] bvdbos bug 354951 was the last afaik [12:19] firebot bvdbos: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354951 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, ICS import fails in ip_parseFromStream [in nsIScriptableUnicodeConverter.convertFromByteArray] [12:21] daniel hmm, some time ago I have also submitted a patch because Google has produced invalid UTf-8 at that time. [12:21] daniel I suggested relaxes decoding, replacing characters that are invalid [12:22] daniel but mvl complained that this might cause dataloss during roundtripping, which is right. [12:22] ctalbert interesting. So, we're not completely out of the UTF-8 woods yet. [12:22] bvdbos is you google for importExport.js the first hit is a forum-post where we need this for synching, perhaps this should be readded? [12:23] daniel I think we may get it right doing relaxed reading (replacing the invalids), but making those calendars read-only then. [12:23] daniel if we actually figure out an encoding error. [12:24] ctalbert We still (or again) have problems with UTF-8 invitaitons too, it seems. [12:24] ctalbert Just tried it. [12:24] * JasnaPaka (Pavel@moz-6885B903.karneval.cz) has joined #calendar-qa [12:24] ctalbert Part of it comes through, part doesn't [12:24] ctalbert I'll update the information in the bug. [12:26] * daniel has quit (Quit: have appointment with my wife) [12:28] ctalbert Ok. updated 291717 with the current behavior. [12:29] ctalbert bug 330463 is next [12:29] firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330463 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Cannot create events in Lightning, regardless of which view is displayed [works with new profile] [12:31] bvdbos I think it's WFM, haven't heard from them and ssitter pinpointed the first problem [12:31] ctalbert I agree [12:32] firebot ctalbert.moz@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 330463 to WORKSFORME. [12:33] ctalbert Ok. I think we're about out of time. Is there anything else folks would like to bring up? [12:34] bvdbos How is press-coverage of sunbird 0.5 done? [12:35] ctalbert I'm going to do some work with QAWanted tomorrow morning (my time -- afternoon for all ya'll) [12:35] * Andreas has quit (Ping timeout) [12:36] bvdbos is there one person who makes a press-statement and the localisers gather emailadresses and translate the press-release? [12:36] ctalbert It's done by a sort of ad-hoc process. Simon and I usually collaborate on it a bit. I was going to also ask my reporter friend if she would write something on us [12:36] ctalbert No, it's not that organized [12:36] ctalbert But, it would be nice if it were.... ;-) [12:37] bvdbos I'll file a bug:-) [12:37] ctalbert ha! Actually, it might be better to file an email. [12:37] ctalbert Or well....maybe a bug. [12:38] * ctalbert checks to see if he has an up to date email address for Sipaq [12:38] bvdbos perhaps we can open an emailadress where all listst of emailadresses for different countries should be send, or just mail to sipaq? [12:40] ctalbert The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of opening a bug. Then we can work on the press-release collaboratively without emailing the silly thing back and forth (we'll just attach it instead). And we can CC all the localizers on the bug. Can you file it against our Website component? [12:40] bvdbos will do... [12:40] ctalbert thanks [12:41] bvdbos see you tomorrow.... people coming to buy my house, have to clean up.... [12:41] ctalbert ok. I think that's the end of the QA Chat. Thanks for your help.
