DevTools/2011-05/12

Meeting Details

• Thursday May 12, 2010 - 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 15:00 UTC
• 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9364
• 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9364 (US)
• #devtools on irc.mozilla.org for backchannel

Notices

• Firebug update
  • Lots of progress on the conversion of the code to modules (AMD-style)
  • the giant libjs file has been split into several separate modules now
  • working on making chrome.js dynamic so that Firebug Lite can have a replaced version of that file
  • Firebug 1.7.1 is coming out this week
  • Firebug 1.8 heading to beta soon
  • Firebug 1.9 branch will start then
  • One of the trickiest parts of sharing code between Firebug Lite and Firebug is keeping the 50+ extensions running
• Debugger
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/DevTools/Features/Debugger
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/DevTools/Features/Debugger/Notes (further implementation notes, very sketchy).
• Web Console update
  • Console log output with file/line notices: http://vimeo.com/23578513 bug 646025
  • Storage service reviews are moving forward
  • autocompletion bugs being worked on
• Scratchpad update
  • Scratchpad has landed for Firefox 6!
  • http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2011/05/10/scratchpad-nee-workspace-web-developer-menu-landed/
  • Feedback is coming back. Response in fx-team yesterday was fairly positive
  • some complaints about keyboard controls
  • requests for a toolbar
• Highlighter update
  • http://people.mozilla.org/~rcampbell/highlighter.ogg
  • down to just a couple of test failures
  • there's a problem that comes up in first run
  • working on annotations and close controls in the coming week
• Command Line update
  • patches are up to get the first bits in
  • interesting challenges around l10n
  • one approach is to land it without any strings
• Style Doctor
  • At the point where we can write rules for it now
  • First 4 rules written
• Style Inspector
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rttP-HB9j74
  • msucan has done a review of the patch and mratcliffe is working on that feedback
  • very small patch to integrate with highlighter
  • peer review is next
• Style Editing
  • demo not quite ready yet
  • worked on some issues with the incremental parser and editing comments
  • kdangoor to upload hand-drawn mockup
• View source
  • Next step is evaluating relative costs of the choices

Roundtable

• dockable panels
  • enn has prototype
  • ux is not sure about the complexity
  • console has a single panel sort of solution
  • there's a halfway point of a preprogrammed docked place and the ability to just undock
  • there's also the Web Inspector/Firebug all-in-one window model
• Modules used in Firebug (RequireJS)
  • Require's failure mode (when you can't get your dependencies) is very unhelpful
  • jjb has made some changes to require that helps debug problem
• Alex asked about use cases for the scratchpad
  • Rob will make a screencast for Scratchpad
  • QA will extract use cases from that