Drumbeat/WeeklyUpdates/Nov-29-2009

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November 30, 2009 Agenda

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Agenda

  • House-keeping
    • Audio recording today's call -- audio will be posted here along w. meeting notes
  • "How do we make Drumbeat more 'social?'
    • Carlo from noizlab will share thoughts on how Drumbeat can make richer use of social networking
  • Drumbeat Project storytelling:
    • Mark
      • What's a good Drumbeat project? How do we make this clearer and more explicit for people new to Drumbeat?
      • For example: many of the ideas being suggested for the Drumbeat Singapore event seem off the mark. So how can we make the ask simpler and more explicit?
  • Web site: wire-framing & graphic design update & questions
    • Ned
  • Web site: How do we design "work spaces that work?"
    • Matt
      • The "project pages" continue to be the most important and challenging to get right
      • Questions for group: What are examples of web sites that you think do crowd-sourcing / collaborative project work well?
      • What are the keys to creating work spaces people will really use?
  • Other suggested items?
    • Please add here

Meeting Notes

  • Carlo on "making Drumbeat more social"
  • Modules in Drupal to minimize effort in social media
  • Using APIs to integrate more fully with social networking sites like Twitter, Facebook, etc.
  • Aggregate activity streams to add value to the community growing
  • e.g., we host something on the Drumbeat web site, also post to Facebook / Twitter, can aggregate comments back to Drumbeat site to enrich the coversation
  • You Tube, etc.
  • Think about integration strategy
  • David: How comfortable is Mozilla with using these social networking. Somewhat proprietary / closed platforms. Need to include others.

Mark Surman:

  • Live, ignite-style presentations around open web
  • Many ideas have to do with openness, but not necessarily about the web
  • How can we more easily get across the idea that a good Drumbeat idea has to do with the open web?
  • e.g., guy in Singapore: wants to design an "open design agency?"
  • Somehow we're not communicating very well the kind of ideas we're looking for
  • Gina: link to a form where they have to answer the question: "how does it make the web better?"
  • Mark: great suggestion
  • Will still have to push harder about how we communicate to outside world
  • Gina: Organize mailing list in more public-facing way
  • Mark: Once we launch more publicly will tackle that -- good point.
  • Ned: looking for help on graphic design and wire-framing for web site
  • Ned: also looking for great examples of recruitment / great sign-up pages
  • Mozilla wiki workspaces work
    • Concrete set of tasks
    • Set of goals people want to move towards
    • Able to build structured patterns of communication over time, esp. as wikis get better for project management
    • Other supporting resources -- that fall off to the side with the wiki being what pulls most projects together
  • Challenge: attracting less technical people to Drumbeat
  • Most people coming for first time find Wiki alienating and hard to use
  • Gina: forms / uniform
  • Use forms and fields that are more user-friendly than wiki
  • Make the experience easier / template

David: Facebook

  • Don't necessarily collaborate on Facebook, but do active working-together like activities
  • All driven by friends showing you the ropes
  • And a friend shows them how it works
  • No one there to hold their hand at works

Carlo:

  • Where integration works important to get data where things are happening, portability, etc.

William:

  • polishing document summarizing project to start an EU drumbeat blog
  • and remix Mozilla manifesto, taking an EU-specific approach
  • will be circulating document later today
  • will be a collaborative blog

Gina

  • worked on a project where people submit one-page proposals online
  • definitely a work in progress, once circulated document