Firefox3/Firefox Requirements Meetings/OS Platform Integration

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Dial-in Info

  • +1 650-215-1282x91 Conf# 8602 (US/INTL)
  • +1 800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8602

Agenda

The following list is taken directly from the Firefox 3 Detailed Feature List. If this list does not match the other, the Google Spreadsheet version takes precedence (I may have made a copying error).

  • P1 - Provide MSI bundle (Windows only)
    • P1 FR - Build system should create a .msi bundle
  • P1 - Airbag
    • P1 FR - Collect crash stack data and report it to central server
    • P1 NFR - Improve usability of crash report UI
  • P3 - Windows Group Policy support
    • P3 NFR - Allow IT administrators to create group profile policies
  • P3 - Vista Parental Controls support (Windows only)
    • P3 FR - Integrate with Windows Vista parental controls
  • Px - Vista compatibility for installation

Notes

Item

  • P1 - Provide MSI bundle (Windows only)
    • P1 FR - Build system should create a .msi bundle

Notes

  • Intended to facilitate enterprise deployment. MSI is useful in a large number of ways in terms of providing flexibility.
  • Question: People have been asking for MSI for years, and we've always deprioritized this. Has this deprioritization of enterprise stuff changed?
  • This is actually a P1 because of Vista more than because of enterprise work, although enterprise stuff is becoming increasingly important.
  • Question: Is P1 too high a priority?
  • Standing Question: Is this absolutely mandatory or should it be a P2?
  • Patches would have to be in .msp format, yes.
  • POSSIBLE CHANGE: Change to "Integrate with MSI installation and patching systems"

Item

  • P1 - Airbag
    • P1 FR - Collect crash stack data and report it to central server
    • P1 NFR - Improve usability of crash report UI

Notes

  • Airbag is a replacement for Talkback.
  • This is largely about the Airbag client, other Airbag reqs are elsewhere.
  • There is a lot more work that needs to be done on Airbag than is reflected here.
  • We need the Airbag team to flesh this out further.
  • Worst case we have a generic thing to store the Airbag reports if the server is not ready yet.
  • Are we willing to ship Firefox 3 with just the client? This is really a non-issue because a rudimentary server is already working, so we really just have to make sure the client is in the browser.
  • We need to do a bunch of Firefox integration hooks.
  • Do we want client-side feature parity with Talkback? Not really interested in committing to this yet. There's a meeting next week about Airbag and Airbag server where more info will be made available.

Item

  • P3 - Windows Group Policy support
    • P3 NFR - Allow IT administrators to create group profile policies

Notes

  • This is definitely targeted at enterprise systems.
  • We need to define this in more detail to come up with actual FRs.
  • Agreed that it is a P3
  • People will want to be able to enable/disable users ability to install or uninstall extensions as a global setting. Users would have no choice but to use the extensions that are on the machines. This would be used in situations like libraries and other shared computer situations.

Item

  • P3 - Vista Parental Controls support (Windows only)
    • P3 FR - Integrate with Windows Vista parental controls

Notes

  • We do not currently know what's entirely involved with this, needs to be investigated in more depth.

Item

  • Px - Vista compatibility for installation

Notes

  • This is largely complete and is now a matter of bug tracking and fixing.
  • DELETE from PRD

Additional stuff to consider and prioritize

  • Integration with platform-native search services ie: spotlight on Mac
    • Search integration should also be brought up in the Places discussion as well (radiant core guy will do it)
  • When logging out in Linux it crashes Firefox - it doesn't quit, it just dies, also true with windows. This is a filed bug. Potential for data loss? On restart you get the "Firefox has crashed" dialog, which is uncool. There's some chance of dataloss. Myk will provide a bug number.
    • Dbaron will be contacted regarding coming up with a list of Linux-related issues that should be included here.
    • 333907 - windows specific bug
      • comments have lots of references to other bugs
    • 336193 - may be a linux/mac bug equivalent
    • 365749 - linux specific bug (there is overlap) - refer to different signals
  • Version detection for Windows - Vista vs XP since we may want to have a different theme for each. Installation configuration piece.
  • Growl integration for alerts? Currently the only alert Firefox throws is download completion. There is a bug for this (308552, 362685). Could be useful for extensions. nsIAlertService stuff.
    • ADD: "P3 FR Growl alert notifications"

Follow-up (Mar 24th, 2007)

  • to do per-version OS theming requires
    • ADD: "P2 NFR Determine version of OS and select appropriate theme elements"
    • ADD: "P2 FR Determine OS version at startup and select/apply appropriate theme"
    • ADD: "P3 FR Add css-selector for OS version"
    • ADD: "P3 FR Add OS-levels-supported metadata to theme packages and selection system" (this might belong in Add-ons)
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