Identity/WeeklyMeeting/2013-09-09
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AGENDA
- merit review schedule
- Indecision around FFX accounts
General Reminders:
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- Monday meeting:
- etherpad: https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/weekly-moco-updates
- Content deadline: 5 pm PDT every Thursday
Meeting Notes
- chilts ozten kthiessen jedp rfeeley toxborrow gene spenrose rlord lloyd jgruen warner
- edwong seanmonstar ! zaach jbonacci
- lloyd:
- merit schedule review process finalized for end of September, retroactive back to Aug 1.
- indecision relative to FxA / Persona relationship across our properties
- goal: get execs engaged WRT tradeoffs, help them make a call
- let's crystallize our arguments and figure it out. It's uncomfortable b/c uncertain.
- goal: get execs engaged WRT tradeoffs, help them make a call
- kthiessen: are higher-ups making progress?
- lloyd: we're making progress [b/c they understand more]. Hope for decision in matter of weeks.
- didem:
- hosting 1st persona meetup, 70 signed up, expect 60-70% yield
- jgruen: UX area, both rfeeley and self asking for input pre NNG study:
- https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/180
- https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/181
- c.f. identity-staff email 6 September
- rfeeley: others from Sumo, Product weighing in. Agendas and roles still in flux. Putting it all out there for comment.
- lloyd: problem mostly feedback and buyin?
- rfeeley: [goal] what are top three pitches for RP? How do I as UX designer decide if no consensus among among vocal parties?
- rlord: get something out there, get metrics. I'm pretty satisfied with where we're at. We're taking a snarky tone initially. callahad is going to be happier with a more pragmatic pitch. Start by tapping into password rage, then -> "faster, safer signins". Everything around Persona marketing in a Google folder; please coordinate there.
- gene: last week/month of NSA revelations: any value in attempt to leverage in e.g. a blog post for marketing Persona? Goal: inform people about our product by tagging along broad topic of discussion.
- fmarier: we don't have a great story as long as we're centralized
- warner: Persona side doesn't effect much. PiCl could, but not yet, actually degrading sync. Article couldn't be as positive as we like.
- lloyd [+1 to warner]
- warner: we could post a guide saying "here's how to configure [our tools] to [reduce NSA exposure]
- gene/rlord: value of showing we are addressing the issues?
- warner: +1. fmarier: yes, say we're working on fixing [structural issues]
- lloyd: in order to get off ground, we centralized. Tell story of clear path to decentralization.
- fmarier: since we've started working on it, it's fair game
- seanmonstar: related original blog post http://www.open-mike.org/entry/lifding-the-web
- gene: multiple vectors. path to native is a clear one [ozten: "I don't know about that!"]. recently changed SSL cipher suites in response to NSA revelations.
- ozten: jedp and I will do blog post, send to gene for review [kthiessen: me review too please]
- lloyd: [typist missed]
- ozten: we can't say we're super-awesome, but we can paint plans in broad strokes
- kthiessen: I worry about staying in sync with Mitchell's plans for us to store more
- lloyd: Francois, do you want to blog about importance of staying decentralized?
- fmarier: discuss offline
- lloyd: have [persona] folks been reading ckarlof's status posts?
- ckarlof: on sync-dev, can Cc:
- lloyd: they've been very helpful for me
- ckarlof: sync-dev for folks who don't want singin
- rlord: now that I am PM (and Deb not), want to sync with you
- also want to link details to user stories, have engineers connect output to them
- rlord: now that I am PM (and Deb not), want to sync with you
- kthiessen: NNTP gateway?
- warner: through GMail, which is superior
- ckarlof: answer to "has anyone been reading" may be no
- lloyd: Tauni has been getting very positive feedback from larger organization
- toxborrow: still a good idea to add identity-staff to Cc: list
- http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.sync.devel
- details on the Persona meetups:
San Francisco Meet-up: Date & Time: September 12, 5:30pm - 9:30pm Pacific Time Location: Mozilla San Francisco Office. 2 Harrison St, San Francisco RSVP: http://persona-meetup-sf.eventbrite.com/ Mountain View Meet-up: Date & Time: September 25, 5:30pm - 9:30pm Pacific Time Location: Mozilla Mountain View Office. 650 Castro St, Mountain View RSVP: http://persona-meetup-mv.eventbrite.com/
Team Status
Native (B2G)
- Work continues on refactoring Persona to a true IdP (new account flow progress)
- Existential questions posed
- firefoxos - trying to assemble a team of us + TEF engineers to work on first-time sign-up
- firefoxos - existential questions, indeed
- firefoxos - ongoing work on stability bugs - no blockers
Signin to the Web
- Persona.org update progressing http://bit.ly/moz-persona-marketing
- Staging site http://ansorep.seanmonstar.com
- Realms review
- Sec Review tomorrow (10am PST, invite coming from Yvan)
- Native team help needed - more detail for this???
- .get({ silent: true }) advice needed
- `realm` property to watch() must also be passed when request() is called [request() isn't called with `realm` property] (is this something the RP needs to remember to do? or are we adding this in the shim and internal api?)
- jedp apologizes for the delay in getting feedback to you
Profile in the Cloud (PiCL)
- Rob now PM proper. Deb R refocussing on FxA.
WebRTC
- [jedp] need to spend some time on this this week. stuff must land
Libraries
- [chilts] currently doing other stuff to learn more about non-libraries :)
UX
- All UX talks, mocks, etc for Identity has a home and has been recently updated with the latest flows for FxOS, Fx Android and Fx Desktop.
- Help John create a reading room: https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/180
- Help John create a glossary of crypto terms: https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/181
- Help Ryan craft and correct RP evangelist site http://anosrep.seanmonstar.com/rp/
- Give Ryan/John feedback on http://people.mozilla.org/~rfeeley/persona_variations/
Business Development
Product Marketing
Docs & Engagement
- Talks accepted at JSFoo.in and JSConf.Asia
- Spoke at PHP user group in Edinburgh: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.identity/qFsvVdeM2Ok/rAxfymrzf8cJ
- Spoke at FrOSCon in Germany: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.identity/jBL1CQBk1bU/Sywx0wbC-rUJ
Product
QA
- Making good progress on the UX/UI flows for about:accounts
- Unit/functional testing of IdP, FAB, S-H continues
- Deployment of MozIdP rolled back due to bug with third-party cookie warnings; kthiessen and ozten attempting to repro.
- train-2013.8.28 in progress; looking to ship Thursday
Blog Schedule
- We are working on launching a new blog series. Stay tuned for more information soon
PTO/OOO (kept in the Identity calendar for everyone's reference)
- Crystal: 9 Sept - PTO
- Shane: 9 Sept - PTO
- Austin: 10 Sept - PTO
- Brian: 13 Sept - PTO
- Francois: 18-23 Sep (JSFoo.in)
- Francois: 25-27 (TRIBE and getting there)
- Brian: 2 Oct - OOO fly to Brussels for summit
- John G: 11 Oct - PTO
- Brian: 7 Oct - 16-oct - PTO
- Brian: 8 Nov - 11-nov - OOO conference