Labs/Jetpack/Weekly Meeting/2011-08-16

Agenda

• Flightdeck Updates
• SDK 1.1 Updates
• Bugs Update
• Roundtable

Minutes

SDK Updates

1.1

• myk to ship 1.1beta1 today
• will cherry-pick fixes from dev branch beforehand
• not clear how many people are testing builds vs. dev branch
• we should get more data, promote more usage

• dbuc talked to flightdeck guys about beta channel
• they say it isn't difficult but probably can't happen until end of quarter
• shooting for October for that

• mossop: do we have a sense for SDK vs. Flightdeck usage?
• dcm: open bug on metrics from website
• dbuc and i have both been pushing on it
• use a company for metrics, and they aren't responsive
• we may be gathering metrics and don't know it
• dbuc to talk to blake about it
• perhaps consider another metrics solution?

• warner: perhaps folks are getting tarballs from github
• maybe talk to github guys about distributing from there

• myk: we used to have some stats from ftp.mozilla.org

• dcm will continue to push on this

Content Process Prototype

• eddy: begun working on content process prototype
• first step is to figure out API
• initial idea is to come up with XPCOM component accessible from XPConnect
• had some talks with guys from platform team
• the way we do this in fennec with alex's prototype is <browser remote="true">
• maybe we should use this browser element and add attribute for addon process
• facing decision about which direction to go
• one trade-off is that browser element requires hidden window
• XPCOM API would create content process and then tab element
• but it wouldn't create browser element
• and message manager expects browser element to be there
• so if we don't have a browser element, we won't be able to use message manager
• and thus we would be able to render content in remote process but not display it
• third question is whether there's a DOM without a browser element

• (much discussion about it)
• myk: let's meet at noon PT (21:00 CEST) in Jetpack vidyo room to discuss further
• all are welcome

Sandboxes for Scope Isolation

• gabor: it isn't clear if sandboxes are the right feature
• i know we want global scope for each module
• not clear if we need xraywrappers
• becoming clear that we don't want compartments
• we should gather feature requirements to determine if we just want modified sandboxes or something completely different

• dcm: let's create etherpad page and iterate there
• irakli: i created this etherpad

FlightDeck Updates

• sean working on search facets to help people find higher quality stuff
• every couple of weeks, you'll get more facets
• AMO integration on test server, enables you to push addon to AMO
• should expect to see first AMO integration features in 2.5 weeks

Roundtable

Roadmap

• dcm: pushed roadmap update
• got anonymous complaints and nonymous praise
• one critic said code quality is not good enough for Firefox
• some people pointed out that stability is missing from roadmap
• dcm responded that stability is an ongoing requirement
• for the most part, comments are positive

SDK-based Addons

• irakli: two addons that are SDK-based
• first is password extension for Firefox, One Password
• popular in the Mac world
• brian: they have an iPhone client

• irakli: another one i wrote, Profile Versions, uses Git to back up your profile
• so every time you restart Firefox, it commits changes you made to your profile

Meeting Minutes for Content Process Prototype

• dcm: myk, can y'all put a note in this meeting's minutes about results of noon meeting on Content Process Prototype?
• myk: yes, i'll do so

Meeting About Module Loader

• alex: is there meeting about module loader?
• irakli: there's a meeting about mobile support that may address module loading
• Thursday at 9am PT, 18:00 CEST in Jetpack vidyo room
• all are welcome