Platform/2014-11-11

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Engineering Meeting Details

  • Tuesday 2014-11-11 - 11:00 am Pacific Standard Time
  • Dial-in: Audio-only conference# 98411
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Need To Know

(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)

Notices/Schedule (lsblakk/sylvestre/lmandel)

Next Merge: January 6, 2025 Next Release: January 7, 2025
Trains
Central: 135 Aurora: 54 Beta: 134 Release: 132


  • You might have heard that Firefox 33.1 shipped yesterday. Congratulations to everyone who pulled this off.
  • Working on 33.1.1
  • 34 beta8 (desktop) ships today
  • 34 beta8 mobile will need to respin because of a stability issue. Will see about getting this ready for tomorrow.
  • LAST DESKTOP 34 BETA 9 go to build is Thu, Nov 13
  • LAST MOBILE 34 BETA 10 go to build is Mon, Nov 17
  • Next week is 34 RC builds

Build Changes (gps)

(Build changes of which engineers should be aware.)



RelEng (catlee)

(Repo, test, and other information for engineers from the release engineering team.)



Upcoming Outages/Upgrades

(System outages/upgrades and tree closures that impact engineering.)

  • Tree Closing Window on Saturday, November 15. bug 1087431 is the tracker.
    • The November 8 window reported last week was postponed to avoid conflicts with decade builds. Final notice is given to the dev groups when everything is "go".
    • An unusually long window -- approx 11-1/2 hours.
    • Most of the work is network related, with interruptions in traffic from time to time.
    • We'll leave trees "open", but developers should expect longer than normal build times and potential need to restart some jobs.

Quality Programs

(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)

OrangeFactor (ryanvm)

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  • Past week's OrangeFactor: 5.16 (last week: 8.38).
  • 26 intermittent failures marked as fixed in the last week - List - Thanks!.

CritSmash (dbolter)

MemShrink (njn)

No update.


Stability (kairo)

  • bug 1096492 (crash in workers) is >2.5% of 33.1 crashes, might drive a 31.1.1, we need help there
  • Otherwise, please concentrate stability work on Aurora/DevEdition and Nightly now, Beta 34 is good.

Team Stand-ups

(In <2 mins, what did your team accomplish last week, on what is your team working on this week, and on what, if anything, is your team blocked? No questions during the stand-ups. All questions should be asked during the roundtable.)

A*Team (jgriffin)

Mochitest test isolation and --run-by-dir

Blog and newsgroup posts

Accessibility (dbolter)

B2G Services (dougt)

Cloud Services (mmayo)

Desktop Platform (bsmedberg)

Developer Services (gps/lthomson)

Developer Tools (prouget)

DOM (jst/overholt)

Electrolysis (e10s) (blassey)

  • e10s has been enabled on the Nightly channel!
  • e10s will not ride the trains to Aurora 36.
  • Watch for major changes to windowed plugins on Windows and OSX native widgets this week.


Firefox Desktop (gavin)

Firefox Mobile (snorp/blassey/mfinkle)

2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?

  • Work is starting on making telemetry work under e10s


GFX (milan)

JS (naveed)

Layout (jet/dbaron)

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1. What has your team done since last week that might impact others?

  • FirefoxOS 2.2 feature planning with OS and Gaia teams.
    • Please reach out if you have Platform dependencies ASAP.
  • bug 961871 will-change CSS property enabled

2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?

  • Working with Google to enable Inbox on Firefox.
    • Now debugging animation performance issues
  • bug 1068477 - When a property is dynamically enabled, allow its declarations in UA stylesheets to be honored without needing a restart

Media (mreavy)

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1. What has your team done since last week that might impact others?

  • Uplifted Hello 'Rooms' code to aurora (preffed off)
  • Fixed longstanding bug with 1-way streams and TURN refresh that caused Hello calls to drop video or audio in mid-call; uplifted to Beta.

2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?

  • Some people are at IETF 91 this week
  • Video codec MTI for webrtc might actually get decided after 2+ years of loggerheads
    • Likely the answer is "Both", making pretty much everyone unhappy - but a compromise.
  • Fighting with Yosemite on Macs (headset add/remove). Think we can land something this week.

3. Is anything slowing your team down or getting in their way?

  • No one has created a time machine yet, or the ability to slow time down.

Necko (dougt/jduell)

  • No update this week.


Performance (vladan)

1. What has your team done since last week that might impact others?

2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?

3. Is anything slowing your team down or getting in their way?

  • bug 1080073 - Losing passwords from password manager since Firefox 33. We need help with diagnosing this, have others seen this recently?

Seceng (dougt)

Shumway (tschneidereit)

WebAPI (overholt)

Roundtable

(Comments and questions that arise during the course of the meeting or otherwise do not have a section.)

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Friends of the Tree

Mailing List Threads

(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)

Good Reads

(Links to blog posts, books, videos, etc. that you think will be of interest to others.)

irc #planning Log From This Meeting