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QA Staff Meeting Notes Jul-18-2012
Meeting Details
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QA Org Items
- New Hires & Interviews
- QA intern for Taiwan team, starting July 7/30
- hi Satdav!
- Upcoming Events/Conferences
- Blackhat, July 21-26
- Defcon, July 26-29
- FISL, July 25-28 (includes MDN hack day)
- Recife Campus Party (with Telefonica), July 29
Travel / PTO
- kbrosnan July 24th - 29th DefCon/BlackHat
- ashughes: July 24-30 (Blackhat/Defcon) -- see Juan for Desktop Firefox concerns
- jhammink: July 23-24 (before FISL); possibly also July 31- August 1 (after Recife Campus Party)
QA Team Updates
Desktop (Juan)
- Firefox
- Firefox 15.0b1 candidates available for testing -- planning to ship on Thursday
- Firefox 17.0a1 is now on Nightly -- de-support OSX 10.5, built with Clang on OSX
- ESR (ashughes)
- Firefox 10.0.6esr released on Tuesday -- now tracking security fixes for 10.0.7esr
- Stability (marcia)
- Notes from Platform Meeting
- bsmedberg just sent email indicating we may be under reporting the actual number of flash crashes due to a bug in Firefox (which is fixed in 15)
- We now have a stability@mozilla.org mailing list
- Automation (ashughes)
- All mozmill-tests branches have been merged -- default:17, aurora:16, beta:15, release:14
- Sync Client (Tracy)
- Two client trains ran last week
- Working on a community action plan specifically around Sync
- App WebRT (Jason/Aaron)
- What happened this week?
- Desktop WebRT is on-track for FF 16, one outstanding blocker bug
- QA support to close out and signoff on this feature soon
- Android WebRT is at risk, some blockers still remaining
- QA support as needed for bug verifications and exploratory testing
- Desktop WebRT is on-track for FF 16, one outstanding blocker bug
- What's next?
- What happened this week?
- Community
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Mobile (Tony)
- Issues
- Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
- B2G (Geo/jhammink)
- (jhammink) - we now have a sanity test log against daily builds: (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqDJxnTd7VDLdDRKOE1uanE3M3FtMDBOVjRIV253S1E#gid=5) Michael Treese is in the loop
- (jhammink) - still writing out testcases for gaia system area, although first pass testcases in place for all gaia apps; I need help with this if it is to land in time.
- (jhammink) - writing up training docs for GB - ICS upgrade, kernel and build flashing
- (jhammink) - in Brazil (Visa approved!) for FISL and Recife Campus Party Demos, also fieldtesting. July 21-August 2.
- (mbrandt) - we need an owner to complete the Tuesday daily sanity tests & the exploratory smoke tests
- (nhirata) - email at risk for 7/20 deadline : known to PM
- (nhirata) - browser hopefully done on 7/23.
- Wrote WebAPI subteam onboarding instructions, moving into wiki this week
- WebAPI in progress: Alarm API, Vibration API, Device Storage API. On deck: Geolocation and WebActivities.
- Pancake (nhirata)
- release to get community members involved : Jul 24
- Not spending much (if at all) time on this as b2g and mobile is taking higher priority
- Community Members Onboarding
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Services (jbonacci)
- Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm): Sync Server
- Working on TokenServer fixes in Dev and Stage that need to go to Production
- Most of this work is AITC/Basecamp related
- Continuing work on Sync 1.1, Sync 2.0, AITC 1.2 time-permitting
- Sync 1.1 deployment to Production needs to be scheduled
- Sync 1.1 + MetLog deployment to Production is planned
- Working on TokenServer fixes in Dev and Stage that need to go to Production
- BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm): BrowserID
- Train 31: 07-06-2012 has be DERAILED
- Bug 771759 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.07.06 to production.
- Work does continue on this train for new features and for issue verification.
- Focus will switch to Dev environment Thu/Fri.
- Test Case development is in progress, thanks to Catalin from SV.
- Train 31: 07-06-2012 has be DERAILED
- Community Members Onboarding
- Nothing new to report this week.
- Hiring and Training
- Nothing new to report this week.
Web (Stephen)
- Affiliates
- 2012-07-17 small release to fix a few issues in the admin area
- AMO
- 2012-07-19 supposed to ship tomorrow (7/19)
- BrowserID
- Working on test stability across the (many) branches
- Engagement Projects
- Social Sharing Widget likely to go live at the end of the month
- ReMo .3 to be released next week
- Olympics project to be released next week
- Flightdeck
- Maintenance mode
- Input
- Per a meeting this morning with multiple stakeholders, it was decided that James Socol's team will rewrite the app
- Mozilla.com
- pushed updates to website for Firefox 14 launch
- Mozillians
- Working on TaskBoard requirements
- MDN
- working on Kuma lauch
- Socorro
- Milestone 16 release scheduled for 2012-07-18
- SUMO
- Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing
- Community Members Onboarding
- Vuyisil (terrameijar in IRC) has been running Marketplace tests
Community (Marcia)
- Upcoming Events
- Grace Hopper Open Source Day will have to be re-scoped
- We applied to late for the project and now the projects are filled.
- I have proposed a BOF session instead and waiting to hear back
- "Continuous Delivery at New Relic" meetup, hosted at the SF office, July 26th, 7pm:
- http://www.meetup.com/Continuous-Delivery-San-Francisco/events/71332792/ (still a few slots available)
- Grace Hopper Open Source Day will have to be re-scoped
- Testdays (ashughes)
- Video Work
- No Update this week
- QMO.next (Raymond):
- [QMO-Redesign meeting
- Upgraded Wordpress install this week
- TaskBoard
- Community Members Onboarding
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Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
- Released Mozmill 1.5.14 which fixes the Flash freeze issue with Firefox
- Got first testcases from Anthony - we will start with MozTrap Smoketests
MozTrap (Cameron)
- Testing going well. Perhaps a few more days before calling to upgrade prod to 1.1
Community Members Onboarding
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Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
- Monday's basecamp meeting notes: https://mozqa.etherpad.mozilla.org/mozappsqa-071612?
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
- Testing Flash Crashes and what you can do to help!
- Participate in Friday's Flash Test Day
- URLs are in the bugs where we actually have them
- See QMO Post
- International Folks: Run international video/game sites that we cannot run in the US.
- Report from Taskboard meeting [mbrandt]
- Report from QMO Brainstorming meeting [retornam]
- Contribute mailing list strategy [jsmith]
- First inquiry - Auto-responder only
- Response to auto-responder - team representative responds
- MozCamp EU Sessions
- Proposed Talks so far
- Kate advises the focus will be on less keynotes and more interactive hacking sessions
- Jason and Aaron have a proposed talk in there for mobile web compatibility
- Do we want to do a B2G Testing Session? If so, what might it look like? We should have some more answers after the meeting on Friday noted below.
- B2G Community involvement in Testing [marcia]
- Meeting scheduled for Friday at 1:00 PM with several constituencies. Following that meeting we hope to have some clarity around what testing sessions we can do at MozCamp for B2G as well as community involvement going forward.
- Hosting a triage session to get more people focused on Bugmaster-like work? We nominated several triagers to go to the event.
- MozCamp focuses on core contributors, but we need some new contributors as well - what kind of session could we have on Friday to bring in new contributors from the local area (these individuals will not necessarily attend the rest of MozCamp - similar to the MDN Hack Day in Argentina]
- Proposed Talks so far
- Paid Staff and Contributors - Thought Process
- QA ownership of components and community connection
- Feature ownership - community connection
- Contributor roadmap
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Today
- Notes
- If you have a session for MozCamp EU 2012 please propose it
- I would think a b2g talk about how to test the b2g desktop build would be far more useful for that audience. that's my two cents [ctalbert]
- Mindset of not thinking of community and employees as separate entities
- Try to use dev-quality more instead of qa-staff
- Iterate toward finding a public place where we want to talk
- QA contact field
- QA owner responsible for ensuring that it is tested
- Take back ownership of QA components
- We have made some good progress since January
- If you have a session for MozCamp EU 2012 please propose it
- Action Items
- marcia to send out list of top flash crash bugs
- marcia to send mail to bsmedberg clarifying real hardware vs VM
- marcia to send mail to flash-rrrt to find out if it is useful to mass email users who are hitting flash crashes
- mbrandt to lead meeting regarding team disussion. geo and mbrandt to put together a queue
Last Meeting
- Action Items