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QA Staff Meeting Notes Oct-03-2012
Meeting Details
# Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core # # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=nL4PESn1IaVh # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9245 (US/INTL) # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9245 (US Toll Free) # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 9245 (Canada) # IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
QA Org Items
- New Hires & Interviews
- 2 candidates in the pipeline for Bugmaster
- 2 Web QA candidates in the pipeline
- Introduction of Matt the security guy
- Upcoming Events/Conferences
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- Notices: Please check the holiday release schedule in the blog post by Alex Keybl.
Travel / PTO
- rbillings Friday 10/5 half-day
- krupa is on vacation from 10/17-11/07
- jammink on vacay from 11/16 -11/26
- ashughes is working from SF October 9-11, travelling October 8 and 12
- dclarke PTO 10/5 & 10/8 vacation
- Monday October 8 is a public holiday in Canada
- jrgm at Identity workweek Oct1-Oct5
QA Team Updates
Desktop (Juan)
- Firefox
- Fx16b6
- Went out today.
- Final shipping next week (coincides with patch Tuesday - it will go throttled)
- Firefox 17 goes to Beta next week (reminder: this is the first version that won't work on OSX 10.5)
- Firefox 19 goes to Nightly next week
- NOTE: If you dogfood on Mac, please try running Firefox in 32-bit mode for the next week (report any issues to Juan and I)
- Right click > Get Info > Check "Open in 32-bit mode"
- Fx16b6
- ESR (ashughes)
- 10.0.8esr releases on Tuesday
- We will have two ESR branches to maintain (10esr and 17esr) for 2 release cycles starting next week
- Stability (marcia)
- Automation (ashughes)
- mozmill-tests branches merge on Monday, please land any last minute patches by Monday morning Pacific
- Sync Client (Tracy)
- Reset Sync Addons wiped bug fixed
- Reset password server bug fixed
- No client train this week.
- Community
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Mobile (Tony)
- Issues
- Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
- Stability (nhirata)
- please see stability reports for channel, platform, and mobile meetings
- Stability (nhirata)
- B2G (Geo/jhammink)
- (jammink) new updated smoketest up and running (in both teams)
- (jammink) taking over bluetooth, wifi hotspot testing and specifying
- (nhirata) - email still blocked, there needs some more implementation.
- (nhirata) - most of the use case test counts have been done, need to fill in more test cases to fill in for use cases; more use cases to come from PMs.
- (jammink) working on Settings count still; about halfway through; some missing test areas
- (jammink) working out system test UCs from WebAPI spec
- (jammink) still need to import comms (SMS, Contacts) from TEF
- Birt reports, leaning on ops to close out bug 786813 - Need Read only access to MozTrap production DB
- Moztrap features - the A-Team has begun implementing a prioritized list of features \o/ (see the pivotal project and filter on "b2g")
- Stability (nhirata)
- need ui for front end to link to crash reports
- need symbols for back end to understand what the crashes are
- API sanity suite being built out here. Continuing to get running reliably under B2G mochitest, and finishing out areas this week.
- Recent code changes (e.g., limiting who can load "app" resources) to firm up security model have also made API permissions test setup tricky. Meeting w/ dchan and ptheriault today re: perms testing approach.
- Dclarke has started etherpad collecting techniques for API testing (and testing around) b2g permissions model:
- Apps (Jason)
- 3rd party app updates and new install API has landed - ready for testing
- App permissions in the manifest has landed - ready for testing
- Ramping up on the payments story
- Pancake (nhirata)
- Apparantly pancake is wrapping up soon? sfoster wanting to join in on b2g dev. Might have to take a sneak peak.
- Community Members Onboarding
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Services (jrgm)
- Sync Server (jrgm): Sync Server
- No update
- BrowserID (jrgm): BrowserID
- browserid beta released last week; well received in press and hackernews coverage.
- Hiring and Training
- At Identity workweek offsite this week
Web (Stephen)
- Affiliates
- Coming soon - bug 760631 - Allow affiliates to link back to a personal website - display website on leaderboard
- B2G/Gaia testing:
- Only one remaining thing from the A-team to land, before we can start writing, and it's awaiting the right process for inclusion into the Gaia repo
- in talks with Dietrich / Gaia devs about it, and have posted to mozilla.dev.gaia
- Only one remaining thing from the A-team to land, before we can start writing, and it's awaiting the right process for inclusion into the Gaia repo
- Bouncer
- Will be meeting with Web Tools to determine a test strategy for crucial Bouncer changes (to help support Stub Installer deployment)
- Current buglist
- Will be meeting with Web Tools to determine a test strategy for crucial Bouncer changes (to help support Stub Installer deployment)
- Engagement Projects
- No update this week
- Firefox Marketplace
- 2012-10-04 goes live tomorrow.
- Mozilla.com
- working on next release
- Mozillians
- The team is doing an outstanding job of fixing and refactoring our automation suite.
- In discussions to move the project to continuous deployment.
- MDN
- shipped release
- Socorro
- Milestone 21 scheduled to ship today -- features/bugs
- django based Socorro is queued for sec review
- SUMO
- Continuous Deployment; smooth sailing
- Community Members Onboarding
- no new updates this week
Community (Marcia)
- Projects
- gear.mozilla.org launched, but was taken down after a day
- We have budget for QA for each team for Q4, but we can collectively pool budget if needed as well
- Postcard designs done. Working with vendor to get them printed. We should use them liberally at events.
- gear.mozilla.org launched, but was taken down after a day
- Upcoming Events
- Italy event in Turin is going forward October 20-21.
- More than 40 people registered for the event
- Mozilla Festival - London, November 9th-11th (ioana.chiorean)
- Mobile in browser games
- ARMv6 support promoted
- WebApss
- Italy event in Turin is going forward October 20-21.
- Testdays (ashughes)
- Firefox Aurora Test Day this Friday. Moderators needed.
- Video Work
- QMO.next (Raymond):
- Community Members Onboarding
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Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
- TBD
Projects
- TBD
MozTrap (Cameron)
- October is MozTrapToberfest. Spending the month implementing fixes and features for MozTrap.
- We have a list of prioritized tasks from the B2G team in pivotal tracker
- [camd] is feverishly attacking the performance issue. It's a complex and nuanced one, but I've got people to ask for help and I've got a plan of attack that I'm implementing.
- stephend has offered help in writing automation to test it.
- stephend has also helped me find in-house folks who can help troubleshooting issues.
Community Members Onboarding
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Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
- [jsmith] r2d2b2g - needs QA support & community strategy
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
- Q4 Goal Check in -https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42012_QAgoals
- Participating in MozCamp Asia
- Who from QA has applied to go?
- What do we hope to achieve by partipating in MozCamps?
- Participation in the Mozilla Festival (related to the Task Project/Community) [marcia]
- Current proposal is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Festival2012/Submit/OneAndDone - Wiki page is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Taskboard
- Need to think beyond just what we can do at the event
- Mozilla Reps will be there, and time can be spent working with them to build community in their respective areas
- How many people can we send? Who are we sending?
- Zac Campbell and Iona from Softvision are already planning on attending
- Reminder of the new READY status (bug 264721)
willmight be introduced to Bugzilla tomorrow [Aaron]- A status declaration that passes responsibility for the bug from QA/triage to those responsible for implementing a fix
- https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QA-Staff-10-10-2012 next weeks meeting agenda on etherpad
- Updated this at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-staff-10-10-2012 (slight format changes, capitalization of url)
- qa@mozilla.org and qa@mozilla.com are the same list, now [stephend]
- both were added to mozilla.dev.quality (two-way, to receiving and sending from/to both should work)
- having problems with duplicate postings, and moderation requests, working on it with IT
- both were added to mozilla.dev.quality (two-way, to receiving and sending from/to both should work)
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