QA/StaffMeetings/QA-Staff-11-14-2012
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November 14, 2012
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QA Org Items
New Hires & Interviews
Upcoming Events/Conferences
Selenium Meetup on "The Future of Selenium Testing for Mobile Web and Native Apps" http://www.meetup.com/seleniumsanfrancisco/events/88722022/
mozcampasia - anyone going?
John Hammink on some panel at this conference - http://mobilewebdevconference.com/san-francisco-2013/agenda.html (Thursday, January 31, '13)
Notices
Travel / PTO
19 (Kevin, PTO)
16-26 (John away, PTO)
22-27 (juanb in TX)
Nov 30, Dec 25-26 and Jan 1,2 - All of Softvision
QA Team Updates Desktop (Juan)
Firefox
Firefox 17.0 go-to-build later today, release on Tuesday
Call-to-action:
If you can help with Firefox 17 security fix verification please contact ashughes immediately
If you notice a hang with Social API turned on please contact ashughes immediately
ESR (ashughes)
Firefox 10.0.11esr go-to-build on Friday, release on Tuesday
Firefox 17.0esr go-to-build on Friday, release on Tuesday
Stability (marcia)
Desktop Stability Report: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-11-13#Desktop
Some Socorro issues late last week:
Bugs related to this:
Original bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810241
Rollback: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810298
Root cause regression: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792118
Backfill: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810313
Automation (ashughes)
Sync Client (Tracy)
2.0 into Fx20 nightlies by end of quarter
Community Members Onboarding
ashughes
Jennifer Cappella (incoming bug triage -- via QA Contribute)
Kamil Jozwiak (security testing -- via Brian Bondy)
David Fern (incoming bug triage -- via QA Contribute)
Mobile (Tony)
Issues
Fennec: Respinning Firefox 17 b6, due to bug http://bugzil.la/802510 and working on bug http://bugzil.la/811763
Likely mobile only beta 7 due to http://bugzil.la/811763
B2G: ramping up on more outsourcing help with device testing
Mozilla TPE and TEF are working directly with Moz US testing schedule
stability and regressions still high
see last week's summary below
Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
Stability (nhirata)
4.2 crasher as above ( bug 802510 )
crash reporter not reporting as above ( bug 811763 )
not much to talk about currently otherwise , see platform stability notes.
Product marketing announcements to ride with Fx18 betas for release in January
B2G (geo/tchung)
Last week's summary: https://intranet.mozilla.org/Program_Management/Firefox_OS/WeeklyStatus/20121109#Quality
Current state of testcases in moztrap/testcase mapping: http://bit.ly/U4qoCh SV doing a great job!
Already running suites for individual areas - vetting testcases
We're starting a new process/triage with Gordon about handling UX, Polish, Performance issues
TEF starting to use moztrap - export of testcases from Massimo arrived today.
email/browser needs feedback from PM about use case questions
email needs more test cases to cover coe path difference of imap/activesync
Met w/ A-Team+Fabrice during workweek, came up with plan for mochitest framework to optionally run tests at a high privilege level to ease permissions concerns for functionality tests and centralize code for much easier maintenance.
Refactored permissions testing approach into three separate suites to reduce dependencies on unstable system parts: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/API_Permissions_Test_Plan -- suite 1 and 3 tracked at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811141, tracking bug + patch for suite 2 coming soon.
Starting triage on existing mochitests to expand suite running on TBPL.
Stability (nhirata)
still need ADUs, still need symbols associated. Reports should show correctly, but only some of them have.
https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/rkaiser/2012-11-13/2012-11-13.b2g.crashes.html
Apps (Jason)
Pay & ID test plan being defined here - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/ID_and_Payments/Test_Plan
Preloaded apps planning discussion coming soon
Planning on updating apps test plan on API updates
Partial testing on-device of trusted UI and mozPay flows
Looking into test definition updates for identity and apps
Looking into more exploratory testing around new app changes on device
Community Members Onboarding
Services (jrgm)
Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/
BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID
Working on train-2012.11.09 for production next week.
Testing is somewhat blocked by an issue in stage env that is being worked on now
Major load test run to analyze scaling issues (dialed up in stage to breaking point).
stabilizing automation tests
Hiring and Training
Phone screen with candidate last week
Web (Stephen)
AMO
Firefox 17 compatibility changes are landing this week.
Firefox Health Report (FHR) - https://blog.mozilla.org/metrics/fhr-faq/
the work and timeline is currently being scoped
https://intranet.mozilla.org/Program_Management/FirefoxHealthReport
Affiliates
no updates
B2G/Gaia testing:
we'll be able to check out the touch-event support in Marionette, tomorrow:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=809245
this unblocks us from finishing Marketplace + almost all of the smoketests (sans ~2)
A-team is busy working through our list of outright blockers or testability bugs:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811053
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810376 (landed)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811351 (landed, needs to land in aurora)
they're cutting us a special build for today, so we can use the two "landed" bugs, above
Bouncer
Sentry improvements verified and in the pipeline for the next release - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804347#c13
Engagement Projects
Firefox Flicks is in early project-kickoff state
Firefox Marketplace
App signing is being set up. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797902 for more details
We push as always on Thursdays. This week's changes are available at http://cl.ly/3K29001a3E2X
Mozilla.com
http://scrumbu.gs/p/mozilla_org/
Mozillians
Funkload performance benchmarking complete -https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795388#c7
API release scheduled for next Monday
MDN
http://scrumbu.gs/t/mdn/2012-11-20/
PFS
just got asked to help move PFS off of AMO:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811841
Socorro
Milestone 26 slated for release tomorrow
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=26;product=Socorro;list_id=4964812
team completed a postmortem for last week's release which needed to be rolled back due to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792118 causing a regression
Community Members Onboarding
Firechemist/Jonah Ho has done some great MozTrap testing
chrisculver701 joined IRC today and has looked at a few Marketplace tests
Community (Marcia)
Projects
Upcoming Events
MozCamp Asia - Schedule is here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampAsia2012/Schedule
Testdays (ashughes)
Automation Testday: https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/11/automation-testday-get-ready-for-automated-webapi-and-webrtc-testing/
Facebook Messenger for Firefox: https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/11/facebook-messenger-for-firefox-testday/
Video Work
QMO.next (Raymond)
Community Members Onboarding
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
The WebRTC team wanted to have Henrik back to create automated tests
Rob and Dave are working hard to get more WebAPI and Gaia tests written
New ESX cluster in PHX will be available soon (network flow has already been setup)
MozTrap (Cameron)
Rebecca has been testing features. Thanks Rbillings!
MozTrap 1.2 going to staging tomorrow:
Run Series
Split-the-work while running tests
Upgrade to Django 1.4.2 complete
some int'l fixes
MozTrap 1.2.5 in progress
perf fixes for activating huge test runs
links to lists with filters
other small fixes
Community Members Onboarding
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
[jsmith] External Reporting, Metrics, Validity, and Reliability
(tony) pre-packaged 3rd party app testing strategy
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
Gmail PTO calendar up to date for the upcoming holidays?
Even if your plans aren't solidified please add tentative dates to the calendar
Coverage during the holidays for Firefox Desktop/Mobile/Firefox OS. Rel Management has a tracking sheet as to who is on point for coverage (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ait_RA8Il0WWdFhxT2NBQXRBdm5NaWJOWFllOE5uS0E&pli=1#gid=0)
Report from the Mozilla Festival
One and Done Session led by Zac Campbell
Poor turnout for variety of reasons but Reps/moderators did us proud and we went through the session structure anyway
We spent 2hrs(!) discussing the personality of a contributor, their needs, drive, rewards and trying to understand how we can better deal with them
A bit more time looking through Parul's wireframes
Scans of the morning's work
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5xz4ze1s1kezgco/SN8X_kJ1qf
http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/position/oByUWfwJ
Community Manager, Firefox Engineering
We should begin a dialog about having a similar role for QA
[mwobensmith] General question about how we intend to deal with B2G test media that is security-sensitive, as it is often host-dependent
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
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Last Meeting
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