SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-02-03

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • N/A

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • Callek needs to talk to sheeri someone about public SeaMonkey dataviz pages not working.
  • bug 1081726 Donation link on website needs to be change to point to SeaMonkey Paypal donation page. Blocked on mcsmurf getting a new CVS website account, looks like his old one has expired.
  • Official SeaMonkey Blog: Some progress with the SSL certificate issue. With the certificate, things would work easier as mcsmurf wants to sync the blog with Facebook entries.
  • Callek has been in discussions with MoCo on whether we (SM) can make use of Firefox Accounts.
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
      • mcsmurf says he has a short term workaround for this.
  • bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
    • This has been spun off into a separate bugs for the website and the rest. For the website it looks like we'll be going mercurial rather than svn (as that is the way the mozilla people would prefer it too).

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Windows nightly trunk builds arewere running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
  • VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December (bug 1092468). Our Windows slaves are in the process of being upgraded to Win2008 and VS2013 (bug 1114876). There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla. Edit: However, only 9 languages are published daily for trunk there, and en-GB is not one of them. For Aurora I didn't check. — Tonymec (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (PST)
  • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30. This is possibly a build config problem so we should check with Callek, ewong, or KaiRo.
    • The de and en-GB langpacks for 2.30 have:
      <em:minVersion>2.30</em:minVersion><em:maxVersion>2.*</em:maxVersion>
      2.22 had:
      <em:minVersion>2.22</em:minVersion><em:maxVersion>2.22.*</em:maxVersion>
    • [IanN and RSX11M] There was a change in one of the scripts that generates the language pack files (the underlying issue was truncated version numbers introduced by Firefox) so it needs to be adjusted to take SeaMonkey into account.
  • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in TBPL atm.
  • [3rd February 2015]
    • Windows nightly and aurora builds broken. Will be fixed by upgrading to Windows Server 2K8 and Visual Studio 2013 (bug 1114876).
    • [comm-release]
      • Windows builds broken due to infrastructure/network hiccup.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.
  • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.


Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.32.1 is coming up soon (no bug filed yet).
  • SeaMonkey 2.33 beta 1 has not been scheduled yet.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • AMO and addon-signing. All addons will have to be signed, uploaded to AMO then reviewed by AMO editors including extensions not hosted on AMO. Otherwise they'll be disabled. Discussion in mozilla.addons.user-experience
    • [Ratty] According to jorgev there will be some sort of build time switch. SeaMonkey users will be disproportionately affected as they use orphaned extensions or modified Firefox/Thunderbird extensions via the xSidebar Project or the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey. We should disable this check in our releases.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    •  !This item should be moved to somewhere more permanent and discoverable! Ratty proposed a link on the front page of http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ posibly near the "Add-ons" navigation item. Also ask Lemon Juice to put his list of successful conversions somewhere on his site.
  • Lightning 3.7b1 builds for SM 2.32 release have been released on AMO, en-US only, using old tinderbox builds [1].
  • The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird.
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • Consensus is that we should ship TJSD as a replacement for Venkman. The next step is to contact the author.
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at https://dataviz.mozilla.org Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.
    • Callek needs to talk to sheeri about public SeaMonkey dataviz pages not working.
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.32

open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (2) fixed (28)

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox has migrated to jsdownloads. Thunderbird is in the process of migrating. We need to decide how we are going to handle this sooner rather than later.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 18 new, 11 fixed, 12 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec's current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags: 29 review 5 super-review 3 ui-review 8 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding. Callek was going to ask about being able to use Firefox accounts.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Callek

ewong

  • In Progress
    • bug 1099585 Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in suite/
    • bug 1093623 Bookmarks are lost when upgrade 2.31 from 2.30.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 1106536 Replace remaining use of obsolete dialogOverlay.xul, in SeaMonkey (/suite/browser/metadata.xul)
    • bug 1120067 RSS (2.0?) feeds not updating and not being added.
  • RelEng bugs still pending for review.

IanN

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Misak

Mnyromyr

Neil

Checked in to comm-central:

  • bug 1121678 Add a menuitem to open a bookmark in a private window.

Checked in to comm-release:

Still waiting for review:

Px

Ratty

TODO:

  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.
  • bug 1127307 Always use inheritance rather than composition for PLDHashTable entries.

Fixed:

  • bug 639189 Make search engine alias editable.
  • bug 1071476 Comma in recipient name splits the recipient name to multiple fields in compose window.
  • bug 1122697 [Linux Only] When opening a bookmark folder, no tabs are opened when the opening multiple tabs dialog warning is dismissed.
  • bug 1128291 Move PREF_JS_EXPORTS to moz.build in DOM Inspector.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Fixed on trunk, waiting for branch approval:

  • bug 912216 Temporarily disable CONDSTORE support for GMail. (MailNews)

Fixed on all channels (including release):

  • bug 1124883 Add missing styles for about:support for modern theme (also to hide the Reset SeaMonkey box again).

Fixed on aurora (was pushed to trunk before):

  • bug 1108189 Color preference pane needs to be adjusted after bug 639134 changed boolean "browser.display.use_document_colors" to tristate "browser.display.document_color_use". (code and help)

Working on:

  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.

Stalled:

  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

sgautherie

stefanh

tonymec

Any other business?

  • New review policy for packaging fixes (package-manifest.in). Due to the general unavailability of the team members who usually review these changes (mcsmurf, Callek), Ratty will be available for reviewing packaging fixes or do them himself with a rs=packaging fix..
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