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??? tinderbox, check-ins ??? what-ever
It seems we have a lot of volunteers like myself who are technically competent but proceedurally ignorant. If those in the know want our help, you'll need to show us how. [[User:L Squared|L2]]
: As there are no changes with the resources yet all old information also applies to the new product we will form. so all infos you need to get the source, compile, and test is found on http://www.mozilla.org/developer/ ... more will come in time. -- [[User:Opi|Opi]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (PST)
:There's an explanation of what needs to be done in "The Plan" section. If you don't know how to use Bugzilla, hang out on one of the developer IRC channels. Maybe it would be a good idea to arrange some "bug days", a day of the week specifically set aside for helping new members get up to speed with Bugzilla work. -- [[User:Schapel|Schapel]] 05:39, 14 Mar 2005 (PST)
Well, I went over to the mozilla.org/developer/ page, but I'm still lost. I have no probelm with Bugzilla, but finding anything in the source is still a mystery to me. It seems that you need to understand the whole app to navigate the source. For instance, I thought I'd use bug 135092 as a test bed for understanding the process. After 30 minutes of digging, I still have no idea where the code is. I thought, well maybe the coding is beyond me, so I'll just look at the help structure, maybe I can do something there. Ha, Ha. I think I (we) need a better road map or a safari guide. [[User:L Squared|L2]]
: There are no more docs as on the developers pages. Maybe some special hints are inside this wiki. And this isn't a bug for beginners. The UI thing may be in http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/mailnews/base/resources/content/ but it may, that something else needs changes for this (I'm no mailnews person). And the discussion should be done in MozillaZine forum. -- [[User:Opi|Opi]] 06:18, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)
Where on Mozillazine would you suggest raising these questions? We've got General, Builds, Features and Bugs. Nothing for newbie-developers.
I feel like I'm being told to go get lost in the forest. If this project wants to involve new blood, the "if you can't figure it out yourself, don't bother us" attitude has got to change. [[User:L Squared|L2]]]
