Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-05-06
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
- Tuesday, May 6, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda
Action Items
- Shredder (name for Alpha 1 / nightlies), davida owns the bug
- Most likely on the SVN, looking to move to wiki in the future.
- Shredder will be both Minefield/Gran Paradiso equivalent for the moment.
- philor has reasons why names should be different for nightlies and alphas though.
- davida will talk to him about names.
Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a1
- Nominations coming in, nothing too big to block
- bug 431788 - Which website should it be on?
- dmose talked to joduinn about the start of the process
- Keep the Shredder Alpha 1 bug up-to-date
- Nick will focus on Firefox 3 RCs though once that comes around.
- We will work with Nick on this, depending on his timetable.
- Rick
- Some configs' got their reviews denied.
- Still to be improved.
- Issues about tinderbox, buildbot, mozconfig to be sorted out etc.
- Pull date of 2008-05-01
- Unless davida wants to take in one last bug 432188
- Not a blocking though, still nominated.
- Tag will then change.
- Ideal date is to have a build on Thursday
- There is still the build configs sorted out though.
- If no build available for Thursday, we'll use nightlies for testday.
- If things drag on, we'll branch.
- If not, we'll release on Friday or Monday, then we'll reopen the tree.
AMO recommended list
- Bryan has a draft, sent to the newsgroup, will blog about it as well.
- Categories, recommended ones etc.
- Will finalize by today or tomorrow.
- Also collaborating with Nic Nac.
- e.g. A Nic Nac extension improves return receipts.
- Will advise CMU team to head to the newsgroup.
(see the Talk Page for more details)
QA Updates
Bug day results are constantly updated in a spreadsheet. UNCO Graph continues to look good - dropped ~250 bugs in 1.5 months.
Last Bug Day Thursday 1st May 2008
- Bug numbers dropping, good sign.
Next Bug Test Day Thursday 8th May 2008
- QA testplan is up
- We'll redirect testers to Litmus, will follow up with Coop about Thunderbird trunk litmus testcases.
- Update: seems that this would not be completed in time.
- Will use nightlies if Alpha 1 bits are not out yet.
- We'll redirect testers to Litmus, will follow up with Coop about Thunderbird trunk litmus testcases.
Roundtable
Improvement of Start page for future Alphas
- Proposed by Ron K on the previous bugday session.
- bug 430762 filed to track this idea.
- Would be good to have especially if http hosted.
- Update: davida is the owner.
davida:
- Set up a ui-review flag, so that the bugs where UI review is really needed can be flagged up to Bryan.
- Update: ui-review is normally used per-patch.
- Screenshots should get attached as well.
- Update: ui-review is normally used per-patch.
Standard8:
- Located some memory leak issues bug 431404, bug 431414
- Removed some dead code bug 431415
- Fixed LDAP ABs so that non-ASCII Bind DNs are supported bug 389655
- Password Manager
- Started tidying up the SMTP service/url code and related items in preparation to help Password Manager migration (wallet -> toolkit) work.
- Will need some detailed look at.
- Unit Tests bug 406227
- 2 out of 5 bugs now fixed.
- 1 bug has patch that needs extending and test case
- I have a basic understanding of at least the causes of the failures for the other 2 bugs.
- Want to look at this week:
- Review policy/Guidelines proposal for tests in mailnews.
- Get (updated) patches up for all of the remaining unit test bugs
- Password Manager
- Start researching Ts (startup time) tests
nth10sd:
- Preparation for QA testday in view of Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1, IRC meeting held
- Bought improved hardware (Memory & disk space) for testing in VMs
- Also prepared QA wiki pages for the alpha release, formulated QA testplan
- Release notes now done by davida
- Patches for some trivial UI naming issues bug 218500, bug 249620
- Occasional bug triage
- Testday coming up on Thursday, hopefully we'll have Alpha 1 bits out.
clarkbw:
- talking with the cutonce group to see if we can help them out
- Created draft list of AMO Rec Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-04-29#Draft_List_with_Categories
- Worked through a number of bugs
- keeping up with changes in calendar month view bug 430382
- working through string change bug 218500
- POP accounts default to leave messages bug 231541 and bug 112356, as well as changing account wizard bug 312431
- File menu and get all messages bug 217942
- Get Messages instead of Get Mail bug 217941
- Account Settings / Properties bug 249620
- Didn't get to Thunderbird:Search like expected, will get to this week
rick:
- Wants to know how to increase disk swap on the Mac.
- He can ask in #maildev
- Still stumped by bug 411171, altho no longer to be considered a blocker for 3.0a1
- working on getting the tinderbox configs for 3.0a1 completed. Two attempts at a patch for the existing configs are close, but not complete. Will be going thru a proper patch with Nick
dmose:
- 3.0a1 driving
- WIll go back to reviews soon, depends on how things go with Alpha 1
beckley:
- Mostly finished with save/restore of open windows. Some issues with tabs which will wait for more work to be done on tabs.
- sid0 is starting up on the Windows Desktop Search integration with Thunderbird. He will be reusing bienvenu's Spotlight integration code.
emre:
- Worked on CPU consumption bug 429929. A temporary patch has been submitted by Markus that fixes the problem for now. 2 different bugs have been filed to address this issue. See bug comments.
- Continuing TB design documentation.
- Worked on bug 383489. Planning to fix this week.
- Made some progress about dummy protocol implementation. Not completed.
- Planning to dig into data storage and search design and implementation of TB. Going to work with clarkbw on search.
- Dale hasn't got back to him yet, he's busy recently, will get back together soon
- May work on offline IMAP stuff together
- davida: should get Bryan, Emre, sid0 and beckley to have a chat about search.
asuth:
- pecobro, the performance code browser
- ...is now usable for stuff! hooray!
- Considering name change to capybara, an adorable rodent thing, as suggested by dascher. Then we can have a logo and a less made-up name.
- Using it to fix bug 296453, the slow IMAP deletion bug. Interestingly, the OS X progressbar performance issues seem to be made visible in the (un-trimmed) trace with many calls to XULWindow/ChromeWindow.setAttribute and progressmeter.xml/ChromeWindow.nextStep.
- Plan to provide documentation for other people to learn how to use the generated by-products to infer things.
- Plan to provide some way for other people to generate their own traces and get them processed by pecobro. This will probably initially take the form of an OS X build they can run and then some quasi- or fully-automated means of getting the trace processed. (Need to provide a build because I have made changes to the Mozilla USDT DTrace probes that are not yet in trunk.)
- Need to get my Mozilla USDT DTrace mods (or equivalent) into the trunk.
- Going to get back to using against sunbird/lightning (on the trunk) for performance.
- If anyone has any bugs that seeing what's happening in the land of javascript would be useful, let asuth know.
- Going to look into the message list view stuff that clarkbw has been looking into. Also interested in the search stuff for visualization reasons.
- dmose: sayrer is interested in asuth's work
- asuth volunteered to create a tag meta-bug for thunderbird (during the after-call-proper-but-still-on-call search-related discussion)
Attendees
davida (David), dmose (Dan), nth10sd (Gary), Standard8 (Mark), Emre, Rick, clarkbw (Bryan), asuth (Andrew), beckley (Jeff), wsmwk (Wayne)