Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-06-24
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
- Tuesday, June 24, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
- How to dial-in
Agenda
Action Items
- Hg integration of calendar (see long thread on the planning newsgroup)
- Philip and KaiRo were here, but not bsmedberg, so punting
- dmose to set up next meeting
- Other issues:
- Scalability
- Easier to go from two repos to one than vice versa (?)
- hg has slower initial download (is it important?)
- What should the structure be?
- How should we plan to QA alpha2?
- nth10sd's last week -> need new QA
- 5 platforms for litmus test & BST for Windows
- XP, Vista, OS X (PPC), OS X (Intel), Linux
- Need someone to take up head QA (wsmwk?)
- One person to take each (one could take multiple platforms)
- Future milestones
- Current schedule gives for 5 milestones through March
- RC 1 in January or March?
- January - beta 1 comes after alpha 2
- March - less time for slippage
- Date-driven release, not feature-driven
- Probably better to do sooner rather than shiny new features
Closed
- Use of priorities
- Not much use for wanted-alpha, use priorities instead?
- blocking-alpha, blocking-3, wanted-3 keep
- No objections to strategy
Thunderbird:Shredder a2
- Blockers:
- Most (all but two) with an owner
- Keep list shrinking
QA Updates
- bugday keeps on chugging
- last week set yet another new record for bugs changed and touched
- From the current foci: IMAP UNCOnfirmed dropped 16% in last 12 days, estimate similar if not greater drop in next 2 weeks; UNCOnfirmed "recent bugs with no responses" and "General" - counts not going up, but also not going down
- this week - hopefully with 3 staffed sessions (more likely 2?)
- Note the impending bmo reorg (date TBD), and concurrent, proposed mailnews cleanup. Feedback needed. bugmail warning
- The above activities affect the mailnews subset of bugs from previously proposed "patch day", which intends to review and clean up "old patches". The proposed mailnews cleanup suggests triaging/touching this subset now, before the reorg+cleanup hits.
- What should be done with these bugs?
- close if no longer valid, otherwise comment as to the state of the bug and the patch(s), is it wanted-TB3? or worthy of blocking-TB3, ...
- change to default QA if needed
- assign bug to yourself, someone else with their permission, or nobody
- Affected bugs (not all are old and need attention, but most do):
- What should be done with these bugs?
Roundtable
Status Updates
dmose
- work days with Emre & David
- met with MoFo Executive Director candidate
- roadmap work (hope to have a draft up tonight)
- more module-owner stuff
- myk has agreed to be a peer of an (unowned) RSS module
- lots of misc community stuff; a few reviews
nth10sd
- last formal week of internship
- no worries, I will still be around in IRC / Bugzilla / email though. :)
- may be sporadic in the next few weeks after Friday though.
- all in all, I hope I finish my internship with Thunderbird in a better state than it was in, when I first started months ago.
- last bugday was amazing, see QA updates above.
- (ongoing) discussions about impact of Bugzilla reorg.
- poking ppl wrt. old Thunderbird security bugs, e.g. bug 360800
- fixed a Javascript hang in Firefox 2 / Thunderbird 2. bug 437288
Standard8
- Reviews
- Address Book
- bug 439320 Use timed textbox for quick searches
- bug 437619 Unfork and co-locate the common js code relating to the results pane window
- Currently awaiting reviews, once this is fixed will be able to fix bug 438035 which will fix the issues with nsAbView
- Automated Testing
- Most of POP3 fakeserver implementation written, some issues with socket closing/reconnection. Possibly won't pick up again until after Shredder a2.
- Autocomplete
- bug 370306 Local Address Book autocomplete is now running on toolkit interfaces
- bug 441530 Toolkit autocomplete incorrectly sets "nomatch" attribute (almost ready for review)
- bug 441526 Implement highlightNonMatches, patch written, needs tests and possible xpfe port.
- Suspect the autofillonmatch will require interface changes, won't be suitable for 1.9.0 branch.
- Password Manager
- Started to document more information about MailNews and how Password Management/URLs/protocol handlers currently work, to try and get my head around the issues we are facing.
- OS X Address Book
- Found a potential fix for bug 439475 (deleting OS X AB items), needs a bit more work
- 4 other OS X bugs outstanding, suspect 2 are related.
- Misc
- bug 440513 Improve contextual information for delete menu option in the address book (awaiting reviews)
asuth
bienvenu
- Reviews
- Two day information exchange with Emre and Dmose
- Fixed test harness to generate profile paths consistent with apps
- Fixed offline deleted IMAP messages reappearing briefly and disappearing, bug 440219
- Fixed removing all tags from local messages bug 439132
- Fixed problem with IMAP message counts after filters fire, bug 439380
emre
gozer
- Filled a bunch of forms, getting keys to our new place, good.
- Linux RefPlatform rebuilt and automated
- Buildbot Master up and running
- No external access yet
- Can interact thru thunderbot for now
- Buildbot Linux slave up, running and producing working builds
- Finally untangled MSDN, getting the media I need
- Win32 Buildbot imminent
- IRC Log bot up and running, needs some discussion on transparency/access
- Primary Sun Fire X4150 possibly died
- Might be fixable, might need Sun Support bug 441558
- Validated current setup, moving all 3 VMs over to another X4150 took < 5 minutes.
- Nagios up and running, even if minimal
- Blogged some, gotta blog some more
clarkbw
wsmwk
- Research and planning for bugday and proposed mailnews cleanup. Feedback wanted.
- Triage
rick
jcranmer
- Some bug triage (seen every UNCO in wsmwk's news query)
- Addressing dmose's bug 413260 comments
- Implementing morkreader
- Done, except for an nsTArray crash, tests, and actually using it
- bug 418551 (de-morkification in folder cache) profiling and work
- Fixing bug 437886 (needed for account type as extension)
- Fixing bug 428614 (crasher)
- Updating NNTP fakeserver and adding tests for bug 16913
- NNTP fakeserver can now be used for QA purposes
- Still need fakeserver usage documentation
beckley
- Added UI for filter contexts: bug 440635
- Needs ui-review from clarkbw
- Adding code to do manual filtering on selected messages in a mailbox
- Awaiting dmose final comment on bug 359226 whether or not Thunderbird needs the redirect UI or it should just remain in Penelope
- Got Mac debugging of xpcshell under XCode working and tested out some code for sid0
Attendees
nth10sd, dmose, wsmwk, davida, standard8, gozer, Philip, Kairo, bienvenu, jcranmer, asuth, emre, beckley