Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2014-08-28

From MozillaWiki
Jump to: navigation, search

Thunderbird meeting notes 2014-08-28 Today's minutes taker, please don't forget to : - save etherpad before clearing for this meeting, if etherpad wasn't previously cleared (but copy "Action items" to the top before clearing) - after end of meeting, copy entire etherpad contents to a new dated wiki page on http://mzl.la/tbstatus so that they will go public in the meeting notes blog. - save etherpad, copy "Action items" to "Action items from last meetings", and clear the rest of etherpad comments

Attendees

  • wsmwk, irving, jcranmer, florian, mconley, rkent, rtanglao, mhoye, mkmelin, marcoagpinto

Action items from last meetings

  • rkent and wsmwk to unblock / deal with bienvenu bugs

Friends of the tree

Current status and discussions

Critical Issues

Pending m-c Issues (bug 1054354)

Upcoming

Round Table

wsmwk

clokep

  • Did lots of chat check-ins! In particular, lots of IRC changes...let us know if you see issues!
  • Briefly talked to the Dark Mail guy again, apparently we keep missing each other on IRC (while I was on vacation last week) Do you have slides you can share?
rkent
  • Thunderbird Summit: Silence for two weeks from those who are following the attempts to release the funding for the event. Frustrating. I have two alternate important potential events that weekend that are currently waiting for this decision, others must also have issues. One thing I hope at least is clear: the current governance position of Thunderbird within Mozilla is untenable, when only Mitchell Baker has the authority to make decisions concerning Thunderbird.
    • mhoye was going to pound on this drum once a day for a week, and if we don't hear from upper management by then, then... well, we have our answer.
  • Thunderbird blog: With David Ascher's intervention, John Jensen (Manager of Metrics) has agreed to discuss access to Thunderbird usage data next week.
  • Marketing: I cleaned up a list of Thunderbird communication and marketing channels at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Marketing in preparation for discussing access and content at each.
  • Big Picture. I believe that we are approaching an existential crisis, and we need to discuss approaches such as http://mesquilla.com/2014/07/31/thunderbirds-future-the-tldr-version/ Can we agree that we are facing very serious challenges? Can we agree on who should be discussing this, when and where?

jcranmer

  • On reopening the tree:
    • Bug 1040009 landed (this changes install from $MOZ_OBJDIR/mozilla to $MOZ_OBJDIR)
    • Bug 1059511 (has patch, needs review) should fix builder issue fallout from bug 1040009
    • Bug 1058296 (make Lightning tests pass) has patch, needs review
    • Bug 1055759 (Fix non-OS X xpcshell tests) checked in, needs reconfig
    • Bug 1059551 (Mozilla-central broke us again) has patch, needs argument with reviewer
    • Bug ??????? (Fix OS X 10.6 mozmill tests) no bug filed yet? Prospectively investigating moving to mozharness - bug 1054308
    • Bug 1054738 (Fix OS X opt builds) needs patch
    • Bug 1041262 (xpcshell failures in unified complete) needs patch
      • Also affects aurora
    • Bug 1053761 (Fix L10n builds) Might resolve itself when bug 1059511 lands
    • Bug ??????? Lots of other xpcshell-test failures
    • Bug ??????? Lots of highly-frequent MozMill intermittent failures on Linux
  • Not mentioned: countless reviews, etc., for build system fixes and ports of m-c changes

Any help with fixing any of these will accelerate getting the tree back open again.

Standard8

  • Holiday
  • Lots of tree fixing, buildbot patches
  • Release landings & merges & go to builds

mconley

  • Not had a chance to address my review queue for some time. Will hopefully get some time next week - this weekend is consumed by other things, and my evenings have been swamped.

Question Time

Support team

Other

Action Items

  • rkent and wsmwk to unblock / deal with bienvenu bugs
Retrieved from "https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2014-08-28&oldid=1013622"