WebAPI/2013-10-15

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WebAPI Meeting Details

• Tuesday 2013-10-15 - 8:00 am Pacific

• Dial-in: Audio-only conference# 98413
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• WebAPI Vidyo Room / London-Allo Allo / Toronto-Spadina
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Notes below archived from etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/webapi-meetingnotes

Notes

Discussion about providing a WebSerial API

• motivation: something like http://codebender.cc/ for Arduino from the web
• http://bit.ly/19EAbJc (since etherpad doesn't like # in URLs)
• https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/WebSerial
• https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=926940
• Originally conceived after this discussion:
  • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674718 <-- WebUSB discussion
• probably a good candidate for the W3C DAP group: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/
• We also have a discussion about serial port API at Brussels' summit. It is a interest topic for controlling small devices with WEB. For example, cowork with devices made by Arduino.
• Marcos proposed implementing this on top of a USB manager which itself could be limited to certain device classes/types and serial ports
• I think serial port is really independent from USB. Although there are lot serial chips are over USB (like FT232) -- Thinker
• discussion touched on concerns about generality of USB API for the web, potential lifetime of USB, serial ports, etc
• Chrome's implementation for Chrome Apps http://developer.chrome.com/apps/serial.html

Fernando and I (Gene) can work together to draft the Network Information API

• Hope to follow up the current progress of this API
  • http://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/
• Who is the contact window in the W3C DAP group?
  • Andrew to email DAP chair and introduce Gene & ferjm
• annevk expressed concerns about usefulness of this API since it's *hard* to know about metered connections; really we need full integration with carrier, etc.
• Travis offered a potential solution: default to downloading lighter weight assets on a mobile connection vs. wifi and allow users to invert the default
• Gene and ferjm will shepherd this and help make decision about pursuing it or not
• Previous discussions
  • web performance list - http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/
  • public-device-apis@w3c.org - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jan/0071.html

A plan is being worked on to get IDB in workers ASAP

• goal is end of 2013
• more concrete plan later this week

annevk and marcosc at http://fronteers.nl/congres/2013 last week

• good conference, lots of excitement about direction of the web, our work, etc.

annevk and bent briefly discussed memory concerns and other aspects of message ports and workers

• needs more discussion, use cases, etc.