Talk:Firefox3/Theme/MacOSX
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This is looking really impressive so far, guys! I'm glad to see you've managed to maintain colour in the theme and still make it look native. --W.woods 03:51, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
Tabs to connect to top or bottom?
- Philosophical arguments aside, I think tabs look strange being attached to the bookmarks toolbar. They're completely unrelated parts of the UI--W.woods
- It is strange logically but aesthetically they look better there. And in every Apple app they are attached to top. So it would blend better on OSX.JurMous
- We'll just have to disagree there. I find the effect jarring and confusing. I think the definite aesthetic improvement of your tab style over Folletto's is the shading effect which makes them look much deeper when they're backgrounded. But that could be done regardless of which direction they're attached. W.woods
- Somehow to the top looks as a happy browser and to the bottom like a sad browser :) I like to the top better and still fits OSX better.JurMous
- The problem with the actual mockup tabs is that they aren't 'terminated': they can't end in white, but they need some sort of closing border. Remember that under them there's a page, and ending suddenly the tabs will be a bit bad. --Folletto Malefico 11:38, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
- Agreed. Whether they're connected top or bottom, I think it's crucial they keep that border at the connecting interface --W.woods 02:30, 1 October 2007 (PDT)
- Somehow to the top looks as a happy browser and to the bottom like a sad browser :) I like to the top better and still fits OSX better.JurMous
- We'll just have to disagree there. I find the effect jarring and confusing. I think the definite aesthetic improvement of your tab style over Folletto's is the shading effect which makes them look much deeper when they're backgrounded. But that could be done regardless of which direction they're attached. W.woods
- It is strange logically but aesthetically they look better there. And in every Apple app they are attached to top. So it would blend better on OSX.JurMous
Look of the toolbar buttons
- I think Folletto's glass toolbar buttons look better (in mock-ups, at least). The matte whitish ones somehow look a bit too plain--W.woods
- Hmm, I like the macbook keys. Otherwise it would be too shiny since OSX seems to move away from the shiny. Now it is nicely mixed :P Maybe I will try something else next time but I kinda fell in love with them JurMous
- I don't dislike them, they do fit well and I wouldn't be upset if they were chosen.. I just prefer the glassy ones a bit more. But I haven't experienced them in large and that can change everything. W.woods
- Hmm, I like the macbook keys. Otherwise it would be too shiny since OSX seems to move away from the shiny. Now it is nicely mixed :P Maybe I will try something else next time but I kinda fell in love with them JurMous
- I think the less-saturated, slightly darker colours of JurMous's mock-ups fit the theme better. The lighter blue reload button reminds me too much of the toxic blue one we have in Fx 2 :) And the bright green on the location bar is a bit glary--W.woods
- If the home button stays (and I hope it will) perhaps a different, unique, solid colour? We already have a lot of green on there--W.woods
- I was previously testing with a dark purple [[1]] bottom JurMous
- That purple looks like an intense magenta on my screen. What about a more earthy colour, like a darker version of the colour that the lock and rss icons are in the same mock-up you mentioned? W.woods
- You are right on the Magenta. :) I will experiment with colors for other buttons in the future when direction is set.JurMous
- That purple looks like an intense magenta on my screen. What about a more earthy colour, like a darker version of the colour that the lock and rss icons are in the same mock-up you mentioned? W.woods
- I was previously testing with a dark purple [[1]] bottom JurMous
Standard RSS Icon
- Have you considered how it looks with the "standard" RSS icon, seeing that really is becoming a (de facto?) standard?--W.woods
- Tried it but dislike the darker more solid and more prominent approach.JurMous
- I agree. It feels out of place. Also, the "icon" for the feed is just the part we've used before, the "orange button" is just one form to use it. :) --Folletto Malefico 11:40, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
- Tried it but dislike the darker more solid and more prominent approach.JurMous
Hover effect on bookmark bar
- Bookmarks toolbar: in the mock-ups, how about adding a hover effect over one of the buttons, so we can see what they look like when active. Maybe a squarer, more space-efficient shape would look good with the new theme?
- Will try next time, did it on toolbar button instead of bookmark bar... JurMous
- I think that some sort of glow is ok, but the one in the mockup doesn't feel good in my opinion. A little less evident, with a lighter icon and maybe a mantching border-button color? --Folletto Malefico 11:39, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
- It actually wasn't the "glow" I was concerned with. It's just that the shapes of the bookmarks buttons are invisible until they're hovered over, and they're an important part of the theme. Currently they're the same shape as the search/find bars (same as Safari), but it's worth considering how a squarer (with rounded edges) button or even a permanently visible (but minimal) border/divider would look with the new theme. (I'm not too hopeful about the latter, but worth considering) --W.woods 02:30, 1 October 2007 (PDT)
- Will try next time, did it on toolbar button instead of bookmark bar... JurMous
Favicons on bookmark bar
- I'd love to see a mock-up of the bookmarks toolbar with favicons restored, especially when the toolbar is full and it'll otherwise look like a grey jungle. This would also allow for an rss icon to be attached to livemarks, but still keep a dropmarker. The current solution (just having an rss icon AS the dropmarker) gives no suggestion that it's even a drop menu. Even if it ultimately doesn't fit the theme, I think it's worth investigating. W.woods
- I think the favicons make the bookmark bar a color jungle. The bookmarks are there for when you need them and not constantly drawing attention. JurMous
- There was a lot of discussion about this on bug 348719. They're not more distracting than icons on tabs, I think. But they do allow a user to reduce their bookmarks bar significantly by relying on just icons and minimal (if any) text. I use Firefox on Windows and Mac on a daily basis, and this is the thing I miss most in the UI of the latter. I don't have high hopes they'll return, but I'd be interested to see how they look. I had them working with the current theme and I thought it looked noticeably poorer when I went back to builds without them, but I'm probably biased ;) W.woods
- Done but somehow out of place on OSX I think JurMous
- I agree. I think that no favicon on the bar is better. :) --Folletto Malefico 11:41, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
- Done but somehow out of place on OSX I think JurMous
- There was a lot of discussion about this on bug 348719. They're not more distracting than icons on tabs, I think. But they do allow a user to reduce their bookmarks bar significantly by relying on just icons and minimal (if any) text. I use Firefox on Windows and Mac on a daily basis, and this is the thing I miss most in the UI of the latter. I don't have high hopes they'll return, but I'd be interested to see how they look. I had them working with the current theme and I thought it looked noticeably poorer when I went back to builds without them, but I'm probably biased ;) W.woods
- I think the favicons make the bookmark bar a color jungle. The bookmarks are there for when you need them and not constantly drawing attention. JurMous
Reordered this page a bit more for better readibility
JurMous 10:55, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
rounded text fields
Please keep in mind that the round edges of some text fields in the interface are not merely fluff, they imply that that field is a search box. Tinus 01:08, 1 October 2007 (PDT)
